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Zohran's victory is very much overhyped in my opinon (Kind of a rant) (hexbear.net)
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Mind you, I'm biased since I'm not from the US, I'm Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I'm a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven't really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online "leftist" spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don't act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don't give me "Oh but the pipeline!!!1!". Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American "anti-capitalists" in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they'd probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

Don't forget to join a good org nearby you, read and organize folks!

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[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

look up the history of how successful third parties emerge in the United States, it's through interparty RUPTURES

That is how successful bourgeois third parties completely captured by capital have emerged, yes. Not sure how it's relevant though.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure how it's relevant though.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again, how are these images relevant?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

During imminent inter-party ruptures that lead to the birth of viable third parties, the host party experiences a crash in popular support, while the emergent party goes from electoral victory to electoral strength, leading to a complete realignment of the entire US political system

Bernie was supposed to trigger a similar rupture 10-5 years ago through his victories, but his incompetent liberal ass obliterated that momentum and led to a resurgence of neoliberalism

But now, Trump's second victory, the Gaza Genocide, and Zohran's rise has restarted the countdown to an interparty rupture

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I get that... but why should I get excited about a bourgeois party rupturing and creating another bourgeois party?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, maybe it'll trigger a civil war and we'll all die on the anarchist barricades waiting for the 'One True Leftist' to come save us

That's more fun, right?

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Damn I forgot that communist organising was a binary choice between “dying pointlessly on a barricade” and “becoming a shill for radlibs”. Thank you for enlightening me, o theoretical one

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

The endpoint of all these discussions

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Oh NOW we're done with binary thinking, how convenient, careful some of your friends may see that as "opportunism"