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Zohran's victory is very much overhyped in my opinon (Kind of a rant) (hexbear.net)
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Mind you, I'm biased since I'm not from the US, I'm Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I'm a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven't really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online "leftist" spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don't act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don't give me "Oh but the pipeline!!!1!". Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American "anti-capitalists" in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they'd probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

who is claiming it as a huge win? the huge win is how mad Cuomo and shit are. Everything else is a potential mild improvement at most, and manufacturing consent for imperialism at worst.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not gonna name names or link to arguments in other threads because that’s petty shit, but trust me that I have been having back and forths with users who have called this “a victory for socialism”, like, verbatim, lol.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If nothing else it's a propaganda victory for now and I don't see why you can't admit that

It could certainly turn into a propaganda failure if he ends up betraying his base or just failing to do anything but that hasn't happened yet

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dunno though, is it a propaganda win if a bunch of people now consider themselves “socialists” but think socialism is when the mayor opens a grocery store?

Like sure quantitative change leads to qualitative change but it seems to me it’s gonna take a whole lot of education from actual communists to turn those libbed up Mamdani voters into class conscious proletarians…. Which is kind of the exact situation we were in beforehand.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

If it is a propaganda victory, who is receiving that propaganda and how will it change them? Will I have an easier time recruiting and educating people for my org?