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Hell yeah. Hopefully this will contribute momentum to a larger nationwide socialist movement.
Almost as soon as Mamdani won the primary, the DNC chair did a PBS interview talking about the important part was the platform Mamdani ran on...
And Martin only waited till after the primary, because he legit believes a party shouldn't be biased. But he ran Minnesota for a decade, and under his watch they went from purple to progressive as fuck.
The only way we lose, is if people pre-emptively give up on the party and don't vote in the primary. So there's going to be a lot of noise trying to convince people not to trust the new party
Going to be?
There's already a shit load of that right here on Lemmy.
We got like 30 months till presidential primaries, and the billionaires are not going to talk about how they lost control of the DNC on the media networks they bought for propaganda...
Ignorance is the natural state, everyone is ignorant of everything until they learn it.
But it's not gonna be a valid excuse for much longer.
But regardless of people's opinion of the DNC, Martin is going to keep throwing money back at state parties, which is going to keep translating to wins downballot. And he's not gonna stop a progressive from getting the presidential nomination.
It'd be nice to also see some midterm primary challenges to incumbent neolibs.
You'll only have to wait a few months...
But we're already seeing them drop out, Pelosi and some other guy aren't seeking re-election.
They know they can't win a level playing field, and if they try and lose they'll get less money from corporations in their second career.
They want risk a fair fight, they've never had it in them. So a lot are going to Paul Ryan off to the sunset and just let progressives have it, hoping it fails and they can pop back up
To be correct. Ken Martin hates DSA and socialists. Most of his time in Minnesota was spent purging DSA members from the party. Minnesota went left in spite of him.
Yo bro...
Look how much he hates progressives:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-voters-and-lessons-democrats-can-learn-from-mamdani
https://www.facebook.com/omarfatehmn/videos/dfl-chair-omar-fateh-is-the-best-candidate-to-help-us-win-statewide/320417132678100/
A single endorsement doesn't change a decade of fighting progressive politics.
It doesn't make Aslam not a representation of Jesus Christ either, since at this point we're talking make believe...
Where's any kind of source about "a decade fighting progressive policies"?
It apparently happened for a fucking decade, so obviously you can quickly gather some big and obvious examples.
You have such a hard-on for Ken, despite the fact that he’s a typical centrist lib who in his own words is happy to continue taking money from “good billionaires”.
I cant wait for the day you realise what he actually is and stop spreading the propaganda.
How about we implement a progressive income tax, no loopholes, instead of fixating on an arbitrary number like fucking dumbasses? How much money CAN one have from which you'd still take money?
Drop the fucking buzzwords. This isn't a game.
Oh hey it’s this troll again. Please you never answered the last time you made this bogus claim - What are these buzzwords you keep imaging.
This has nothing to do with taxation, the issue is money in politics.
Please before bothering me any more on this site, take the time to actually read what has been said you’ve now made this ridiculous completely unrelated statement twice now.
Lol, what's a greater sign of one's insecurity in their own argument than instantly labeling "troll". Pathetic.
Is that how language works? One's own claim requires an answer? I thought answers followed questions. What do you even think is "bogus". Fucking income tax?
"Billionaire". It's fucking arbitrary and it removes the focus from where it should be. "Centrist lib", you sound like a Trumper for fuck's sake.
Oh and ONLY billionaires can put money in politics? Someone with a hundred million, you wouldn't have a problem with that? What is your cutoff? A lot of rich people put money in politics precisely so they can get tax breaks. So no, they're not unrelated. And every time you allow a Republican to come to power over the "centrist lib", you do the super rich a massive favor.
More pathetic posturing to obscure your weak argument. That's all this is. It's not my fault you're too goddamn stupid to understand either why they put money in politics nor how you actually help them.
"Billionaire" is a buzzword now? Lol.
There's no "new party". Democrats won in Virginia by being centrist. Not every part of the country is exactly the same.
But they won. Because the alternative was a literal maga crazy person who doesn't think prejudice against LGBT people is discriminatory.
Now, you can be unhappy that it wasn't some mystical ultra progressive (that wasn't even running in the race)... or you can be happy that at least the needle didn't shift even further right. Now that's not to say "Vote Blue NMW", but it will be easier to field progressives in the future from Spanberger's position, than from Winsome's. And maybe next time, the magical lefty messiah Lisan al Gaib will be running and the choice will be between them vs the centrist democrat, instead of a centrist democrat vs a literal smoothbrained maga dummy.
I certainly didn't dispute that. Both won by running races that best appealed the majority of voters in their electoral areas. People here are somehow mad that we got the governorship of Virginia? The confirmation bias is ridiculous.
Yeah, welcome to much of America that isn't NYC, a major urban metropolis. And Mamdani still had decent opposition from a sex offender. Gonna ignore that? If you try, you could downplay his victory as much as hers but why would you? They're both wins. Winning shouldn't divide us. Also, it's bit easier for a Democrat to win the mayoralty of NYC than it is the governorship of purple Virginia.
I'm happy in either case. All I care about is a pragmatic approach that moves society in the way I most agree with. Allowing Donald Trump to come to power doesn't qualify.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Not to say there isn’t, because we’ve seen that doing so is how you get people like Trump and voter apathy.
Almost like not every part of the party is exactly the same?
The "new" part is being nonbiased instead of ridiculously biased.
If you're confused and something sounds like it doesn't make sense, ask questions instead of making assumptions
That supports my point, it doesn't dispute it.
What the fuck does that mean? Non-biased, is that a joke? People, trying to divide the party to help Republicans win, are obviously biased. I on the other hand accept both wins in NYC and Virginia while you accept only NYC.
I didn't express confusion or uncertainty. This is a pathetic argument tactic that intentionally avoids the topic at hand.
Stop trying to divide the party. That's how you uncompromising ideologues gave us a second Trump presidency.
I think the problem is you don't understand what the DNC is...
If you chill out and try to have a civil conversation, I can help
A-fuckin-men! I hope the dnc also gets their head out of their ass and starts embracing the left side.
The DNC is owned by billionaires, the sort the DNC chair Ken supports and defends their right to play economic kingmaker.
There is zero chance the DNC gets their head out unless a leftist somehow takes over ala Mandani.
Deranged.
Absolutely pathetic response. You can't do better than that?
So we somehow made Trump win but also got a Democrat elected? Sound logic.
Yeah, it's almost like there were separate elections or something.
What a stupid fucking point. Yeah, both are true. 10 million "progressives" handed Trump the presidency in 2024. Now, a much more concentrated group of voters elected a Democrat as mayor pf NYC. There's no "somehow" mystery about it.
Didn't give anything to trump. You're either assuming Harris was entitled to something she never received, or do you actually think Dementia Don convinced a lot of voters to cross the spectrum?
They gave Trump the country. They gave him a get-out-of-jail free card. Pathetic fucking phonies who don't even REMOTELY give a fuck about the issues they claim to care so deeply about.
Dementia Don had the same number of voters in 2020. Somehow, those 10 million fucking idiots were able to vote for Biden but Harris "didn't deserve it"? Maybe you can explain why a convicted felon child rapist deserved it instead. Because if you refused to vote for for her, you helped him come to power. You're a Trump supporter. Hope you're fucking proud.
They didn't give anything. Complete absence of things. Null. Zero. It's especially deranged to think they possessed an entire country to give. It's literally impossible to give what you don't have, and claiming otherwise is serious mental gymnastics.
BTW I didn't vote for him and my state has sent its electoral votes to Dems from current day contiguously back longer than any other state. So assuming who I support is another ignorant statement.
NYC and Virginia are proof that different polities require different approaches.
“Proof”
You know how can I tell when I'm right? When this piss poor attempt at a response is all you can offer.
One or two examples of a thing is not “proof” of anything.
OK then, so Mamdani's win was ALSO meaningless, right? It doesn't mean anything about a progressive push in the party?
You see how your arguments works both ways? NYC and the state of Virginia are different places. Why are you so upset that Dems won in VA? They wouldn't have won there running Mamdani's campaign because the entirety Virginia is the not the municipality of NYC.
No.
Didn’t say that either. It’s not proof that the party is getting more progressive. He didn’t exactly earn their full throated endorsement.
No. My “arguments” was that that one or two examples dont constitute a “proof” about any grander strategy being used.
Oh I see we’re just doing full blown straw men now.
In that case, it’s the same reason you are so upset about some shit that you didn’t say anything about.
That’s true. Virginians don’t care about free buses in New York. They’d probably have to make the campaign address Virginia.
Hard truths here in this post.
Fact is, the more progressive candidate won by 15 points. Not sure how this proves anything about what would have happened had an even more progressive candidate run.
there kinda already is kicked off by bernie in 2015, The DSA (Democratic Socialists America) has made AOC and Mamdani big and also a number of less prominent figures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America