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Graham Platner said he was going to kill thousands if not millions of Muslims because his way of life is better (lemmy.ml)

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[–] pika@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMnc4ddc7j4

Based on everything I have seen, he has remorse, as well as disgust for US foreign policy and his role in it.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

he has remorse, as well as disgust for US foreign policy and his role in it.

You mean he claims he does.

He's had three tours in Iraq and actually went back willingly with Blackrock and said he enjoyed small wars, that he enjoyed infantry combat; when he was firing mortar into a heavily urban area and told to stop, he switched to something that couldn't be detected so he wouldn't be stopped; he would've continued using the mortars but didn't because they would've been detected the military. Does he actually have remorse for what he's done? We can disagree on that, but obviously you and I agree that he should not be allowed within a mile of political office with all this, right?

Literal Nazis were appointed in leadership roles in NATO; they claimed they were forced to serve, and perhaps they were telling the truth, but obviously we can agree that people with such backgrounds shouldn't be allowed near any kind of political office, right?

Would you trust a former member of ISIS for example when he says he's got remorse for what he's done as well as disgust for ISIS foreign (and domestic) policy? Perhaps he's telling the truth, but would you trust them in a political position? Remember, Platner has literally admitted to committing war crimes; he is literally no different than a member of ISIS.

[+] pika@lemmy.today -6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but obviously we can agree that people with such backgrounds shouldn't be allowed near any kind of political office, right?

You don't believe he has changed enough to be trusted.

I do. I have personally met him and talked with him. I believe that he's sincere about what his current views and values are.

He seems like a flawed, real person with a bad past; the US military chewed him up and spat him out like it does to most servicepeople. None the less, he is responsible for doing a lot of awful things and I'm not going to argue or downplay those. But, becoming disillusioned with the US government can really change a person.

[–] nefertum@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You think someone who about 10 years ago was blase about killing around a million muslims deserves to be in your government? After your party elected Fetterman? Literally fuck off with this. It must be easy for people like you to think this because he didn't say that about your family. That is quite literally my family he is talking about. I knew America and Americans were evil but holy fuck you just reinforced this for me. Nobody in my government has ever said that it would be ok to kill a million people, that is insane.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Based on everything I have seen, he does not have either of those things.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can you quote these sentences

https://youtu.be/uMnc4ddc7j4?t=37m13s

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

Tagging you as Schumer Mouthpiece

[–] pika@lemmy.today -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I linked the video to provide more information for people to make up their own minds.

Can you quote these sentences

Look, if you want a monkey to dance for you, go to the zoo.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Okay so you are lying and I wasted my time. Thanks for confirming.