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Dear community,

Let's just say I'm a country that wants to create my own CPU only using knowledge/tech/techniques that are in the open and nothing proprietary. When I said CPU, let's just say something that can run a C program, and eventually the linux kernel.

Is creating one out of publicly accessed knowledge and resources even possible, and how minuscule the tolerance need to be? Is there even a successful open CPU project out there?

I'm asking this because of an anxiety that I have when knowing only several companies in the world know how to create a CPU.

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[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not trying to create the new Core i7 here, just something that can run as well as a raspberry pi. My imagination that a nation/company need to start small and aim small, before exploring other more complex architecture.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well that's about the level that Russia is at after working at it (okay mostly stealing others' technology) for 50 years.

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a matter of fact when looking at their own in country manufactured lithography, they are hoping to make a fab that can hit 350nm by 2030. That's the equivalent of a pentium II from 30 years ago. The raspberry pi 5 is a 16nm chip.

They had developed much faster chips but those relied on machines that are now under sanctions so they are trying to build their own sad fab.

[–] IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are truly starting from scratch, shooting for Raspberry Pi performance isn't starting small, thats a huge goal. It's a complex chip built on a fairly modern process node (28 nm for the 4B) using the second-best-established architecture.

The reasonable goal to shoot for would be an 8086-like chip, then perhaps something like a K3-II or early Pentium, then slowly work your way up from there.

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

yeah, comment above really gave me a picture that 16nm is really small