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Miller: “The tragedy is a political party and a movement that has ripped down our statues, our monuments, our holidays, our heroes, our heritage,” Miller continued, ignoring the fact that the Trump administration has itself called for the removal of statues that do not align with its version of history.

“The Republican Party under President Trump celebrates beauty again and beautification again, and just as President Trump has beautified Washington D.C., now he’s repairing, finally, an area of the White House that has been left in disrepair for decades.”

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And let's not forget that "modern art bad" is just more (traditional) western supremacy in a pseudointellectual trench coat.

EQUATOR had a cool interview that touched on the birth of modern art a few days ago:

Pankaj: Before the First World War, there was a shared belief that civilisation was continuously progressing, and was on its way to somewhere no human being in history had ever reached. This was a widely shared consensus, across artists, politicians, and businessmen, that was completely shattered by the First World War, triggering a search for alternative values. So many people were prompted by this implosion of European civilisation to look for values elsewhere — they went to India, to China, to Africa. Modern art, for instance, is inconceivable without that engagement with non-Western cultures and traditions.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

While this is true I feel it fails to acknowledge the real history of Europe. Europe was always involved in cultural exchanges with people from other continents, albeit at a slower rate than in modern times. This idea that there is some authentic, independent, ancestral European culture that we need to return to is itself a white supremacist fabrication. So while it's good that people started to turn away from this myth, it's also necessary to acknowledge that it was always an illusion. Those traditional European arts and other cultural cornerstones were also influenced by multiple cultures.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

there was a shared belief that civilisation was continuously progressing, and was on its way to somewhere no human being in history had ever reached.

This is a common misconception amongst civilizations throughout history. Usually it reveals a profound misunderstanding/assumption that the people who are being exploited to make those gains will never speak up or rebuke the institutions that take advantage of them.

I'm sure there were Western colonial powers that thought their particularly despicable brand of chattel slavery would last forever and lead to unlimited growth for slave owners and the state. But the people of Haiti and Jamaica revolted. The American civil war followed.

We are certainly at a point which no human has ever seen before today but there will always be "self-cleansing" cycles so to speak.