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Americans are rejecting the national security state

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You really, really shouldn't.

The very best case is that we have 4 years of chaos within the biggest economic force in the world, with the biggest military by far, and things return to normal after. There is still lasting damage from those 4 years, and will be felt around the world. This is at least close to what happened on Trump's first term.

Far more likely are the scenarios where the US loses significant influence on the world stage. This influence is likely to be absorbed by global assholes, most notably Putin. Your area will almost certainly be worse off because of it, unless you are one of those assholes.

Then there are the doomsday scenarios. These are seeming more likely every day. Things like another Holocaust, civil war, and WW3, possibly even nuclear.

There are no winners from this.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, anyone outside the U.S. and sitting there and snickering about it is kidding themselves if they think this mess will be confined within our borders.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago

You've got it the wrong way round, they're snickering because America has always been like this to people outside it's borders, and now it's coming home to roost. Do you really think people from Iraq or Chile or Indonesia think the US keeps it's bullshit confined within its borders?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago

Your area will almost certainly be worse off because of it, unless you are one of those assholes.

So this has always been what Americans tell themselves to justify their brutal domination of the rest of the world, but it's a load of bullshit, warmed over White Man's Burden.