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" CATL has thrown its hat into the ring with the Naxtra sodium-ion battery, with 175 Wh/kg and 10,000 lifetime cycles along with operation from -40°C to 70°C. CATL is planning a start-stop battery for trucks using the technology. It has the potential to replace lead-acid batteries. CATL has announced battery pricing at the cell level in volume at $19/kWh. "

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

if i can afford one, i'll buy a car with it. but if i can't, i'll keep using my 04 nissan.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If I recall well, it isn't a good fit for cars as it energy density per weight isn't as good. But for residential batteries, that's huge (if true).

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

This isn't true any more, and it's mentioned in the article. Sodium is at least equivalent to - and on pace to surpass - the energy density of Lithium. It's already being used in passenger cars in the Far East.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

And me my '02 Mitsubishi wagon.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

It's unlikely you will see a car powered by those in near future if ever as they have relatively low density. But you'll definitely see those as home battery and such where size/density doesn't matter that much. And I bet it's less inflammable as well.

Edit: ha, I stand corrected, there are cars powered by these but don't expect huge range.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

honestly, I'm fine with a lower range. when i go into the office , it's 15 km away from my house. i can charge up at home, drive to work, come back and charge it up for the next day, so as a daily driver it might be fine. The problem comes when I want to go on a road trip, which is my preferred method of going medium to long distance. I avoid flying like the plague, and trains are really expensive for some reason.

[–] Overspark@piefed.social 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In China NMC isn't really used any more as a battery chemistry, almost all cars have LFP batteries. Sodium-ion has a slightly higher energy density than LFP. So basically almost all cars except the really expensive ones with a ridiculous range should switch over to sodium-ion pretty soon.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

It's still roughly half of the NMC. I wonder what's the charging speed.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

Per the edit, range will probably be fine. Na batts are already reaching the energy density of Li batts in EVs right now. It just takes a while for a new battery on an assembly line to get into actual car models. We're not really waiting on any breakthroughs anymore.