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Immigration agents shot a suspect after he rammed their vehicle during LA stop, DHS says (www.kktv.com)

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Immigration agents shot a suspect after he rammed their vehicle during LA stop, DHS says

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[–] 0nt0p0fth3w0rld@feddit.org 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I can see not wanting immigration. I can understand how that is something people might genuinely want. I don't personally agree with it but i can understand it. But what i don't understand is the fact they are doing this in such a fucked up weird childish nonsensical manner that makes it clearly look like this is more a show of power than it has to do with their immigration concerns. If they could still get away with doing this to gays and blacks it would be happening to them instead.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They could

[–] 0nt0p0fth3w0rld@feddit.org 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they most likely will if this goes on longer but i bet it will look more political on the surface.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

BLM was all about the cops already doing it to black people. A lot of ICE are cops.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

All of ICE is cops, especially in the ACAB sense.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

~~If~~ they ~~could st~~[w]ill get away with doing this to gays and blacks ~~it would be happening to them instead.~~

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I can see not wanting immigration. I can understand how that is something people might genuinely want. I don’t personally agree with it but i can understand it.

I can't understand not wanting immigration. As economies develop the local population has fewer children. This leaves a nation with a declining birth rate which results in a negative replacement rate. This means more people are dying everyday (usually from old age) than are being born to replace them in the population. At this point a nation has three choices:

Do nothing. As time advances, this means the nation dies because its people simply die off. Realistically, as soon as the population drops low enough, the country will be invaded and taken by another country. The result, the original nation ceases to exist. This is the path that Japan and South Korea are on which both have negative replacement rates and very restrictive immigration rules.
Force your population to give birth. This is what Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu did starting in 1967 with Decree 770. Abortion was made illegal. Birth Control was made illegal (sound familiar for the USA these days?). Women were made to visit state hospitals monthly to monitor for pregnancy. Once pregnant, the secret police would track expectant mothers to make sure she carried to term or faced the threat of law. Material mortality skyrocketed. Orphan populations skyrocketed because unwanted children were being forced to be born to parents that didn't want children. This lead to a spike in child mortality.
Immigration. Allow others to enter your nation to keep the population stable or slightly growing to make up for the shortfall in birth rate from the domestic population. Canada does this successfully. To-date, this has also been the path the USA has been on, and has been able to buck the trend of a declining population currently being faced but much of the rest of the highly developed economy nations. Under trump, that is reversing, which means we're going to be choosing #1 or #2 on this list soon.

Given those three choices, immigration sounds like is an awesome choice! I can't understand why anyone would want a different choice.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I mean. Every white person in the US is an immigrant technically. Indians and Mexicans are native to the US.

I’m all for immigrants coming to the US though from all over. Amerkca _was Great when it contained global cultures in every state and no one gave a shit. Now it’s just a racist cesspool