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[–] nocklobster@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like the gold is more for using right before the worst case scenarios, in the end, they will have enough firepower, security, and other necessary provisions. After having that, just get a big enough following of people who think you’re the ideal candidate to be seen as a king for them and that’s what the rich will become in the next theoretical cycle of civilization.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

that’s what the rich will become in the next theoretical cycle of civilization.

On the surface, it sounds plausible. But if you dig into how the resources you mentioned are produced, the ones which would allow them to become kings, there's a plot hole. The production can only be done in centralized factories where many workers labour. And the inputs for those factories are done in other factories where many workers labour. As long as such resources are required to maintain these fiefdoms, the rulers power would be constrained by labour power. And we know from history that when enough workers are out of a job, when enough live in poverty, workers organize to stop working and take over the factories. Then they start producing for themselves, instead of the rulers. Then the rulers end up with no guns or other technology needed to enforce their power. What's worse for the prospects of the future would-be-kings, is that the theory which tells workers how to organize and what to do in such cases has been written, and tested, and it works. And so I think we're likely gonna see more of that instead of new monarchies formed by former capitalist elites.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Right...

They'll try to use it for "security" but the fact is that just tells the people they pay one of two things:

  1. There's a bunch of gold where you work. And only you and your coworkers have guns

  2. There's no more gold so you might as well leave.

There's a pretty good show with a great premise called Billionaire's Bunker that gives a third option, the billionaires would really hate that one, but it's pretty good plan