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Marine colonel who resigned because of Trump says personnel should question ‘illegal orders’
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If all the decent, moral, knowledgeable, experienced military personnel leave, then MAGA will be left with a military of incompetents, led by incompetents, all the way to the very top. They may have the weapons, but they won't know how to use them.
But the Resistance will have all the intelligent experienced military leaders, who not only know how to use the weapons, but know how they are secured, and how they can be "liberated."
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I can assure you even a child can use a rifle. Sadly it happens every day.
And that "resistance" is not going to have access to any type of weapon that would require more than five minutes of training.
I was military, my dad was military, a grand dad was, multiple aunts/uncles were, literally innumerable cousins...
I can assure you not all of my family is intelligent, and the military designs things for the lowest common denominator.
Even nuclear engineering in the military isn't exactly challenging, the training is just intentionally stressful so it will be harder than actual service.
Like, look at other actual resistances in other countries, you don't even know what will be used as weapons in a hypothetical resistance...
And this place is better than reddit, but I don't think I could get more specific than that
Edit:
Also, intelligence and compassion aren't correlated.
In fact once you get more than a couple standard deviations above average, misanthropy tends to be one the norm.
It's hard to explain. Imagine someone just walks up and hits you in the balls, then acts surprised that you're hurt and upset with them
Long before a very intelligent person understands that they're very intelligent...
They just think every other human is an inconsiderate asshole we doesn't put a second of thought into how their actions effects others. It is incredible easy and unfortunately common for that opinion to stuck around for a long time.
Yes, everyone knows if the majority of the military is untrained and lacks critical thinking skills, they could never successfully oppress their population.
That's why African Warlords with armies full of child soldiers famously never commit unspeakable atrocities on their citizens.
That's a silly analogy. American soldiers do not have the same life experiences as African child soldiers. It's ridiculous to think that both types of soldiers would react the same way.
All soldiers have the potential to commit atrocities, and many will, but a lot of American soldiers will refuse to commit atrocities against their fellow citizens.
Tell that to Kent State.
American soldiers are soldiers. Soldiers follow orders. Soldiers without critical thinking skills follow orders without question.
Which is one of the reasons that any will hesitate to fire on Americans. The reputation of the National Guard was very badly damaged by the aftermath of Kent State, and it took decades before any trust returned.
It's been a long time since that happened, and hopefully there are still a few in leadership that remember that an instant of satisfaction from pulling the trigger will lead to decades of repercussions.