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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would take that further and say have one parent have enough money from one job so either parent can stay home.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's what I meant when say that one person can afford to provide for family. But I guess the way you said is clearer.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 19 points 2 days ago

Yeah I'll go ahead and blame my eyes (need to get my fucking reading glasses) for missing a whole word there.

Either way - yeah, sexual attraction has fuck all to do with the birthrate.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Minimum wage is supposed to be that high.

That's the metric it was the minimum for.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 9 points 2 days ago

Yup!

But capitalism is a dogshit, self-destructive and nonsensical system. At best, well made regulation can hold the worst of it at bay.

In reality though... Well, we can just look around to see why a bandaid isnt a fix.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

£12.21 (16.21USD) per hour in the UK. At least outside of London its pretty good but online comments about it are so dominated by those in/near London that you would get the impression its impossible to live here on those wages. I didn't have any problem with minimum wage in the south west and I was only working 30 hours a week - still saved up several thousand a year.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would push back even further and say that the nuclear family (as well as the Prussian school system) is unnatural and even harmful to child development. Raising a child in a village with lots of extended family and friends of all ages promotes much more varied socialization, with a mixture of peers to relate to and older role models to learn from.

Both daycares and schools suffer from the problem of socializing kids into seeing adults as authority figures to be placated and manipulated, rather than leaders to learn from and aspire towards. This also feeds into a cycle of seemingly-unending adolescence, to the point where we now have 30+year olds talking about “adulting” as something they still aim to achieve.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah I think you've gone too far off the wrong end. People talking about 'adulting' is a joke, it just references being uncomfortable with not having someone with more 'authority' to fall back on, and it's something that is cited in various ways over the millenia in various media.

I don't think what you're proposing is wrong in terms of 'would it be beneficial' but I don't think it wholly misses the idea of 'is it feasible' and not just in monetary terms. As it stands, today, if I had to raise my kids in a 'village' in this state, I'd sooner enroll them in Scientilogy For Kids in hopes the joint brainwashing cancels itself out.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Oh what I’m proposing has no foreseeable path to fruition. I’m talking about what we’ve lost on the road to industrialization. We’ve gained a lot as well but endless words have been written about that! Far less has been said about the downsides of industrialization and the movement towards car dependent suburbs.

It also needs to be said that all of what we’ve lost may not be equally irretrievable. Some things could potentially be brought back, especially as our culture continues to evolve. For example, I see the current crises with social media and the loneliness epidemic to be temporary issues (but also symptomatic of our loss of village life and in-person social connection).