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[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yeah... and it's a dumb idea. Consciousness is not software.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

What I consciousness though?

It's clearly not hardware, if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What I consciousness though?

It's organic.

if either an emulated brain can be conscious or just pretends to do so is impossible to prove or disprove.

The point is moot - the consciousness of the frozen billionaire is non-existent in either case.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (38 children)

It’s organic

Why? Why could there not be a non-organic consciousness?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

Going to take it a step further and say artificial life is just organic life with extra steps.

The concept of robots that continued to evolve post creators is not new to scifi.

In some ways our own body is simply an emergent complex machine of regenerative biodegradable micro hardware.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There maybe could, but it would be a different one from the person. A second consciousness that was copied.

To my knowledge we are nowhere close to being able to actually transfer a consciousness

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Of course we aren't close. But the above poster was making a categorical statement that consciousness must be biological.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There maybe could, but it would be a different one from the person. A second consciousness that was copied.

The premise behind the videogame SOMA.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 4 days ago

Exactly! One of my favorite game stories to date.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There's a whole field of philosophy dealing with that question, there's no consensus yet, though interesting ideas have surfaced

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

I don't think that's something that will be solved as it's not something really tangible.

The most simple theory and the one I lean towards is that every time you go to deep sleep you effectively die, and when you wake up (or enter REM sleep) you are effectively a whole new consciousness who just happens to have the memories of the many consciousness who previously inhabited your body. This theory is nice because it solves the teleporter paradox, but doesn't answer the question if an emulated brain actually thinks or just pretends to think. The so called philosophical zombie.

But also, it's funny to think that if I truly believed this theory, then I would spend all my money right now and let "whoever inherits my memories" to deal with the consequences.

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

You don't know that. Literally, you don't. Nobody does. This might be your opinion and that's fine, but stating it as fact is disingenuous

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

You don’t know that.

I also don't know whether ghosts exist. Will you go to bat for them, too?

but stating it as fact is disingenuous

Pretending that consciousness is software because movies and videogames portrays it working like software is far more disingenuous, I'd say.

[–] p3n@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That depends on their definition of software. If software is partly defined as something we can create, and consciousness is something we can't even fully understand, let alone create, then they are correct.

[–] relic__@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You will never be able to make a perfect copy of the brain and anything less means you wouldn't be "you" anymore. Any of these schemes about copying the brain are moot because of that, I think.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Given advanced enough technology making a perfect scan on the brain seems perfectly duable, you're not breaking any laws of physic that I know off.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

We are legion. We are Bob.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago

But but software can think now, it's totally not copying and pasting together random segments it scraped online