What actual liberal politician has EVER even TRIED to do this? My brother in christ, I left liberalism EXPLICITLY BECAUSE all the politicians did their best to avoid doing this. 'Oh but they say' Imma stop you right there, I lived through the Obama years. And I can fucking read about many other administrations which did exactly the same.

but conservatives don't let us do things and and and

If your perfect fucking system can be so easily manipulated by some of the stupidest, most rancid people on the planet, then

It isn't a very good fucking system and/or
It isn't for us.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What actual liberal politician has EVER even TRIED to do this?

FDR, but dozens of giant American industrialists came together to (fail to) do a fascist coup against him, the Business Plot. But even the New Deal and the welfare state/Keynesian philosophy eventually turned into a tool leveraged by the Truman and Eisenhower administrations to put America in the position of global hegemon; the American working class could only benefit from liberalism at the expense of the global south.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

and even then, the new deal only happened because the ruling class felt genuinely threatened. liberals didnt suddenly decide to implement it because they were liberals.