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Outside a train station near Tokyo, hundreds of people cheer as Sohei Kamiya, head of the surging nationalist party Sanseito, criticizes Japan’s rapidly growing foreign population.

As opponents, separated by uniformed police and bodyguards, accuse him of racism, Kamiya shouts back, saying he is only talking common sense.

Sanseito, while still a minor party, made big gains in July’s parliamentary election, and Kamiya's “Japanese First” platform of anti-globalism, anti-immigration and anti-liberalism is gaining broader traction ahead of a ruling party vote Saturday that will choose the likely next prime minister.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This vid explains the situation better than I can (it's about South Korea but Japan is basically in the same boat)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

From a higher abstraction vantage point, you are not wrong, but you are basically advocating for entire countries to disappear

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the entire country wants to enact policies and cultures that would lead to their disappearance then who are we to tell them otherwise?

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

rational people?

But you are being disingenuous here... it's not the entirety of Japan, same as the entirety of Murica did not choose to swim in the sewer with MAGA... yet they are forced to by a loud minority and a push over majority

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think we should at least warn them; perhaps they don't have enough information to connect that outcome to their currently preferred policies. I.e. they don't actually "want to enact policies and cultures that would lead to their disappearance". Preventing persons from unintentionally harming themselves seems like a good thing.

Preventing persons from harming others (unintentionally or not) seems like a moral imperative. And, I think there are probably SK citizens that don't consent to the current policies that will be harmed.

But, at the end of the day, I don't have any action items. I see it mostly as a cautionary tale to drive my own policy preferences.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to the era of Misinformation

Why do you think we are here? getting people to vote against their own benefit is how we get Billionaires and eventually devolve into fascism before we step into another WW

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the hostile information environment is ... tough. But, until we figure out how to navigate it, we won't have a truly global society, and I'm not sure that separate, non-hostile communities/associations/syndicates are a stable configuration.

Critical thinking skills are part of that, but exercising them as a defense in that environment is not something you can sustain indefinitely. Everyone needs time to rest and everyone is going to make mistakes.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

but you are basically advocating for entire countries to disappear

In biology, a species is considered threatened if there's fewer than 200 individuals of that species around.

Here's your short reminder that south korea has 52 million people, so even if people almost stop having children for a generation or two and the population stabilizes at 5 million people, which is 1/10 of what it currently is, it's still very far away from extinction.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

ugh... watch the video and then come back once you ditch the pedantry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

if a country of 52 is reduced to 5, they would literally roll back to per-industrial living