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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Trump Regime is basically Caesar's Legion, but dumber. NCR all the way!

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

wasnt the whole point of the NCR about showing this dinosaur of an organization failing to adapt to the new state of the world, trying in futility to carry on under the old rules that lead to the worlds annihilation in the first place, repeating the same mistakes over and over while things are were now even less sustainable/forgiving....

meanwhile the ceasers legion was harsh but fair, ceasers territory didn't suffer bandit attacks any longer because ceasers legion when to great lengths to exterminate them and insure the conditions where they flourished didn't exist

bethesda just fucked em on dev time so they had to cut all content on ceasers side of the river

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I always thought the lack of content was intentional because CL was a very rigid society that gave people the option of crucifixion or conscription and essentially there was no freedom to do dumb bullshit in that society.

The whole point of the game was that only house was taking the long view and orgs like NCR are the obvious response to CL which is just an even older model of society.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

idk, i recall reading somewhere that dataminers dug up a bunch of CL-side of river content sitting unused. which would likely be result of constricted timeline bethesda gave em

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

I don't know about the CL stuff specifically, but there was definitely a lot of content that got cut. Obsidian got screwed over by Bethesda hard. It is ironic that they are now both owned by shitty Microsoft.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That was definitely a theme of the NCR, but you are being grossly kind in your interpretation of Caeser's Legion. They were horrific monsters that burned people alive. Their sadistic brutality was admittedly affective, but I'd rather join the Children of the Atom than those sick bastards.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

no doubt about that, but the "these ruthless bastards are actually pretty good at imposing order upon the wasteland"-message gets kinda lost because all the CL-territory content got cut.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Order is not nnecessarilya good thing. Nazi Germany in 42 was certianly more orderly than the Weimar Republic it replaced, but you'd never chose to live there if you had to pick one of the two

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ceasers Legion is a myopic hellstate that reduces women to sex slaves, and culturally genocides every tribe it conquers. It's entirely dependent upon the leadership and personality cult of one guy with a brain tumor, and will fracture if not disintegrate upon his death. They refuse to use any of the old worlds technologies to such a point that they weaken themselves by shunning firearms and sicken themselves by rejecting stimpacks. The NCR is hardly perfect, but to call the Legion "fair" is absolutely ridiculous. "Tough but fair" applies way more to House than the Legion. To say nothing of the fact that you criticize the NCR for being too stuck in the old ways, but the Legion is just a rehash of even older society