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I'm sorry but a child reaching freshmen year with their documentation that shows they are developmentally at a third grade level for reading and writing is unteachable. I know that may be a crazy opinion but I've never seen it this bad till this year.

Half a co-taught class developmentally 6 years behind where they should be. My co-teacher is losing their mind. I'm losing my mind. We're doing stories that are 3 pages long and they forget what was 1 paragraph before. They don't know how to operate a google document. Many have lost their homework sheets in their folder less book bags.

I don't even really know the other half of my class since I have no time to talk to the students who are demonstrating the basic ability to follow a 2 step direction since I'm busy putting the fire extinguisher to other half who seemingly have never been told to do anything their entire life.

I cannot scaffold things any lower without it literally being a third grade level class. One child literally had documentation showing they don't understand that stories begin and end.

Our biggest challenge of the year so far was writing a singular scaffolded paragraph with sentence starters based off a short story. Multiple paragraphs contained characters that simply did not exist in the story.

I'm losing my brain

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[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If 1/12th of what they say in that sub is true, it's terrifying

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate that sub. Half of it is this kind of doomposting, the other half is utter hatred for children and teenagers, it's such an interesting example of "you start to hate the people directly under you in the class system once you get a tiny bit of power to oppress someone who has no recourse".

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's just the teacher version of retail workers venting about customers.

Teaching is a hard job with no pay that requires a uni degree to do. There's a baseline assumption that everyone who's in it is in it because they care deeply about educating children. And schools are usually set up in such a way that they're not really able to do that properly. And they see that every day and it hurts. The teacher version of "the customer is always right" is Solely Positive Regard. No matter what a kid does in the classroom a teacher (should) be trying to make sure that the kid still thinks the teacher thinks the world of them, and their parents should think the same and teachers (should) keep their cool in the classroom at all times. And that's just not sustainable 24/7. Like retail workers the repressed frustration from being patient and caring and giving 8 hours a day 5 days a week gets vented in situations where it's safe to do so. Teachers generally live in the community they teach and parents in the community are as much (often more) a "customer" as the kids are, often more, so only their families and other teachers (usually) get to see this.

The vast majority of teachers don't hate kids. If they did they wouldn't stay teachers, f you read that thread closely the vast majority of these comments aren't contemptous, they're saying "I wish I had time/capacity/permission to teach this kid in the way I know they need to be taught. The way I have to teach them is an actively harmful waste of my, theirs and all my other students time".

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

they're usually mad at parents or admin. some kids are electively bad but usually there's a home situation there.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

I have noticed the "admin is worthless and the system forces wastes of time and resources and fails all the kids" posts. Those are good. I do understand the venting. It's just that... I have seen some posts there where they seem mad at parents who stand up for their kids and lump truly right ones in with "My Little Johnny can do no wrong!" ones, and mad at admin who won't let them mistreat a "problem child" in even more egregious ways than they're already getting away with or remove that child from their classroom (they never care where that child would go, just "I need him Not Here"), and stuff where... they're mad that they're expected to have complete control over things they're not given effective tools to affect in any way. Which is sometimes an obvious admin fail that they correctly blame admin or partially misblame parents for, and sometimes control freak behavior from admin that they're angry at both the admin and the students for.

It's very possible I'm seeing a lot of it come off a lot worse than it was intended, just because I was on the receiving end of in class explosions by fed up and just plain abusive teachers and support staff a lot as a kid.