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Is agitprop even worth it? I got 3 dislikes and a comment saying "I FOUND ONE" as if I'm some pokemon in under 5 minutes. What could have been done better to persuade more and spark genuine discussion? I'm new to agitprop, so any advice helps especially if it's coming from experience.

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[โ€“] WilliamA@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i haven't thought about that to be honest. Reading the articles, it was just as if the nukes were somehow magically developed when Ukraine became "independent". Good point. Another thing I wanted to say, but couldn't as it would trigger a defense mechanism making them even more ignorant than they already are, is that Ukraine, Russia, and 13 other were never even states to begin with. Reading sources, almost every single one had the narrative of x gaining independence from the USSR as if before the USSR there were multiple states. Another aspect of this is when non-marxist people and scholars discuss a region in the USSR, they talk about it as if its some kind of occupied entity not as if it's a region of the USSR like for example Beijing is city in The PRC, which is the actual case.

[โ€“] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the USSR pretty much created Ukraine as a nation, same with Belarus. But this is even more extreme in the case of the central Asian republics where the Soviets had to do a lot of nation building just to create the nationalities that they packaged into the various Soviet Republics there. Before the Soviets these regions had little to no concept of a shared national identity and were just a lot disparate tribes. The borders there are quite artificial as a result of this and still cause problems today, just as the borders of Ukraine caused problems, just as the borders in the Caucasus caused problems (Abkhazia, Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh). They only made sense as internal administrative divisions of a larger whole.