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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Here is what Kimmel did, as far as I can tell. First accusation against Kimmel is, from Kimmel's Wikipedia page:

In his September 15, 2025, opening monologue Kimmel said about the reaction to the killing of Charlie Kirk that "[w]e hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

But we all saw Republicans doing this exact thing in real time. How is telling the truth in a way that leads people to the correct understanding of the situation an attempt to "mislead the public"?

Also, even if you assume that FCC Chairman Brendan Carr believes he himself is telling the truth, then isn't he doing the exact same thing that Kimmel did? Because he's saying that Kimmel is trying to characterize the assassin as conservative instead of his true political leaning, when Kimmel said the exact same thing, but opposite.

Regarding the killer's motives, "the Utah County Attorney, Jeff Gray, stated that the mother of the suspected assassin had said her son started leaning more to the Left and 'becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated'". But that's a dubious source who has a reason to lie quoting another dubious source who has a reason to lie.

You think the assassin's mother wants to believe that it was her conservative teachings that led her son to murder? It could be true, or it could be a huge delusion. How many times have you seen a murderer's mother lying about their child's actions due to massive delusion? It happens all the time.

Even if we heard it from Tyler himself, I would be dubious. If he was actually a conservative, it would be easy to convince him to lie about this, I think.

Second accusation against Kimmel is from a video that I saw, where Kimmel commented on Trump's reaction to being asked about Kirk's killing, where Trump said he felt great and was excited about the progress on the White House Ballroom, and Kimmel mocked Trump about that. And that is also a completely truthful statement that doesn't mislead the public.

When I first heard about this accusation, I thought that Kimmel had probably done something that could easily be seen as bad, if you looked at it the wrong way. But everything I've seen has just been that he did nothing remotely wrong, and the people who are conspiring against him are simply lying.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

But everything I've seen has just been that he did nothing remotely wrong, and the people who are conspiring against him are simply lying.

What he did "wrong" is call the lie out in public. It's that simple.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

George Orwell - 1984

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

You called?

But yes. We are living in those times, and more.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's clear to anyone with half a brain that they've been looking for any excuse to capitulate to Trump's demand that Kimmel be fired. I watched the monologue and then had to come to the comments to see what I missed. It turns out I didn't miss anything.