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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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amazing how much shittier it is to be in the rat community now that the racists won. before at least they were kinda coy about it and pretended to still have remotely good values instead of it all being yarvinslop.

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it would be nice to be able to ever invite rat friends to anything but half the time when I've done this in the last year they try selling people they just met on scientific racism!

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 24 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Apparently genetically engineering ~300 IQ people (or breeding them, if you have time) is the consensus solution on how to subvert the acausal robot god, or at least the best the vast combined intellects of siskind and yud have managed to come up with.

So, using your influence to gradually stretch the overton window to include neonazis and all manner of caliper wielding lunatics in the hope that eugenics and human experimentation become cool again seems like a no-brainer, especially if you are on enough uppers to kill a family of domesticated raccoons at all times.

On a completely unrelated note, adderall abuse can cause cardiovascular damage, including heart issues or stroke, but also mental health conditions like psychosis, depression, anxiety and more.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago (9 children)

That seems so impractical, esp as we have (according to them) 2 years left, that they already wanted to do the eugenics and just were looking for a rationalization.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Genetic engineering and/or eugenics is the long term solution. Short-term you are supposed to ban GPU sales, bomb non-complying datacenters and have all the important countries sign an AI non-proliferation treaty that will almost certainly involve handing over the reins of human scientific progress to rationalist approved committees.

Yud seems explicit that the point of all this is to buy enough time to create our metahuman overlords.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, an AI non-proliferation treaty that gives some rat shop a monopoly on slop machine research could conceivably boost human scientific progress significantly.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

I think it's more like you'll have a rat commissar deciding which papers get published and which get memory-holed while diverting funds from cancer research and epidemiology to research on which designer mouth bacteria can boost their intern's polygenic score by 0.023%

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

Considering the reputation of the USA and how they keep to agreements, nobody (except the EU) is going to keep to those anyway. And the techbros who are supposed to be on the Rationalists side help create this situation.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago

Which all seems pretty reasonable tbh. Quite modest.

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