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Russia’s Communist Party on Ukraine: ‘If We Lose This Conflict, We Will Be Destroyed’ (www.youtube.com)

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[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Ukraine couldn't defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place.

The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening.

But don't take it from me, take it from this guy

Or better yet, how about the CIA?

They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would

[+] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And there are no NATO bases currently in Ukraine nor was there support for Ukraine in 2008 to repel Russian aggression. So it might have been a strategic worry for Russia, but nothing ever came of it.

And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it.

[–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

And it comes back to my original point that the war was pre-emptive attack on a weaker sovereign nation for the stated purpose of defending the stronger nation from possible attack. This war has Bush doctrine all over it.

It's more complicated than that. There is still context from 2014 up till now, Minsk 1 and 2. Russia tried diplomacy talks then the SMO happened.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

2008 was Georgia, what are you talking about?