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At some point climate change is going to cause more migrants than any 'developed' nation can support. Net migtration into the UK is currently coming in at around 700k a year. This is London a decade for a country that is pretty close to as population dense as the area around New York - I think they call it the tri-state area. Imagine nearly a New York a decade into the tri-state area. That is what the UK is currently doing and has been doing for decades now.
With the best will in the world it simply isn't sustainable. The UK is not food secure and is not energy secure now. Are we supposed to rely on a belligerently corporatist EU for food, and then Russia, for energy? (edit - I haven't looked at our current energy situation, I am not interested in media stories about UK energy. I have looked into it enough to know a lot of it is bollocks.) It actually isn't possible now for the UK to have the immigration we have.
The door is going to be closed and at least many millions of the poorest globally, who haven't caused climate change, are going to lose their lives unnecessarily. I don't like it at all, but this IS going to happen. So when do we close the door? The poorest in the UK are already having food taken out of their mouths, and that working poor is growing due to many decades of neo-liberal capitalist policy. Same dynamic as the US expressing itself in a slightly different way.
I spent the second decade of this century is a small city of about 250k people that experienced about 30k immigration in the last two decades. It is a poor city anyway, with cheap available housing due to previous government decisions forcing many of the people born there to leave. They dumped a load of people into communities that cannot support them. It is not racist to say that this isn't doable. When 'liberal' media people say it is racist to complain the people I grew up with (who I don't particularly like, but will defend from outsiders) will just say 'well fuck you, if I'm racist I['ll vote for the racist party'.
I don't like any of this. I am just describing the reality. You either face up to reality or you will see fascism as a result.
The issue isn't that they don't want immigrants, or want immigration reform.
The issue is that they literally want remigration (ethnic cleansing of all non whites) and were threatening and ugly.
They chose to hold a protest on a day when families were out enjoying different cultures.
They were violent towards me and my children and husband, and spouted bullshit American rhetoric while doing it.
Claiming that they like immigrants, they just don't want illegal immigrants.
Australia is an island! We lock up the immigrants who come by boat on an island! We don't have illegal immigrants!
In a shop window in northern California, I recently saw a sign saying "nobody is illegal on stolen land."
Perhaps we are talking about two slightly different things. I was describing the situation in the UK and across 'developed' nations (i.e. the rise of fascism) that is leading to the same public sentiment you experienced. We had a neo-nazi march in the UK over the weekend too. You are describing what happened to you. I am explaining why,.
Maybe you were the downvoter. You can't downvote away reality. It is foolish to try.