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[โ€“] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Went to lunch with a friend today, it was nice until the topic of Charlie Kirk came up. I didn't hold back my delight at his death and made clear that he deserved it. My friend immediately starts going on about how that makes me as bad as MAGA - an argument that I don't engage with because it's a stupid person argument - and how I'm radical, which I say "Yes!" to.

He's recently been pivoting hard into Christianity and I know he spends a lot of time on Reddit, likely where he forms his political opinions. He tried to spin me a story about this Christian woman who forgave the killer of her children... after 3 days. He expected me to be impressed but I just found the idea of that absurd. How could anyone possibly do that? How could someone else hear that and think it's something to emulate or be proud of? It's just absurd.

I think he was trying to suggest people should forgive Charlie Kirk out of some Christian idealism - but no, why? I believe in second chances, but the man spouted evil up until the moment he died. He wasn't sorry. This was his grift, this was his job.

I felt a bit bad for ripping the woman he mentioned to shreds so I apologised if I offended him, and he 'joked' "no, I know you're just not very intelligent." This irked me because he is just like everyone else, going along with the mainstream narrative, believing and saying what they're being told to say about Charlie. Not using any critical thought. He's gay too (but white passing) and yet he doesn't see the threat that people like Charlie Kirk are to us. His solution to people advocating for the removal of our rights and our murder is to forgive them. And yet I'm the unintelligent one.

I don't have respect for people like that. He will never contribute positively to liberation. He's a citizen, he will happily live his life and be absorbed by his little problems, irrespective of what is happening around him, irrespective of the type of political climate he is living under - until it affects him. He's my friend but equally people like that sicken me because they are the majority and their lack of attention to things that matter and their willingness to parrot what they're told without critical thought is what enables all of this.

[โ€“] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

::: spoiler unsolicited sermon Coming from another Christian, you didn't really say anything wrong and his example isn't appropriate. It's one thing for someone to do something wrong to you and for you to forgive them (or decide to hold a grudge), it's a different thing entirely to identify the oppressive dynamic happening to other people and situate yourself accordingly. If you hold any marginalized identity yourself, then there is a sense in which Kirk's actions were harmful to you individually and, from your friend's perspective, you would have to let go of that grudge to forgive him. But only thinking that way is a very liberal (and therefore the default in our bourgeois society) way to think; clearly our feelings about what happens on the news are a lot more about the societal forces at play, the contradictions in which we may identify an oppressor and the oppressed, are much bigger than our personal grievances about instances of harm we've been dealt. There's a concept in Liberation Theology of collective sin, and it's inherently tied to that distinction between the harm that individuals are capable of, versus the harm that entire systems may inflict.

Anyway, if I was there, I would interject when your friend said you weren't very intelligent to say that the proposition that it's a Christian's task to forgive the collective sin committed by an entire society is misguided; at least, it's a very 21st century neoliberal version of Christianity to think that when the TV/internet man dies you have to say a prayer for him and never speak ill of him or even feel negatively. The kind of forgiveness he's talking about is fantastical and individualistic. It's the negative peace which is the absence of tension which MLK Jr. spoke about. Actual forgiveness comes as the result of a whole community working to heal the wounds that were inflicted, that's the mercy you're supposed to show each other.