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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The pair also suggest that signs of AI plateauing, as seems to be the case with OpenAI’s latest GPT-5 model, could actually be the result of a clandestine superintelligent AI sabotaging its competitors.

copium-intubation.tiff

Also this seems like the natural progression of that time Yud embarrassed himself by cautioning actual ML researchers to be weary of 'sudden drops in loss function during training', which was just an insanely uninformed thing to say out loud.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

From the second link

first, I've seen that one of the most common responses is that anyone criticising the original post clearly doesn't understand it and is ignorant of how language models work

And

PS: please don't respond to this thread with "OK the exact words don't make sense, but if we wave our hands we can imagine he really meant some different set of words that if we squint kinda do make sense".

I don't know why some folks respond like this every single *time

Lol.

And of course Yud doubles down in the replies and goes on about a "security mindset". You can see why he was wowed by ceos, he just loves the buzzwords. ('what if the singularity happens' is not a realistic part of any security mindset, it gets even sillier here, as the recursive selfimprovement here just instantly leads to a undetectable AGI without any intervening steps)

It gets even better, in defending himself he points out that using the wrong words is fine and some people who do research on it actually say loss function at times, and as an example he uses a tweet that is seemingly mocking him (while also being serious about job offers as nothing is not on several levels of ironic online) https://xcancel.com/aidangomez/status/1651207435275870209#m

Remember, when your code doesn't compile, it might mean you made a mistake in coding, or your code is about to become selfaware.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember, when your code doesn’t compile, it might mean you made a mistake in coding, or your code is about to become selfaware.

Good analogy actually.

Don't forget Yud is also a big compiler understander

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

And a good writer. Verbosity being the soul of wit.