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“Every move in my own home is monitored,” Yang said, sitting behind black curtains that block him from the glare of police lights trained straight at his house. “Their surveillance makes me feel unsafe all the time, everywhere.”

Across China, tens of thousands of people tagged as troublemakers like the Yangs are trapped in a digital cage, barred from leaving their province and sometimes even their homes by the world’s largest digital surveillance apparatus. Most of this technology came from companies in a country that has long claimed to support freedoms worldwide: the United States.

Over the past quarter century, American tech companies to a large degree designed and built China’s surveillance state, playing a far greater role in enabling human rights abuses than previously known, an Associated Press investigation found. They sold billions of dollars of technology to the Chinese police, government and surveillance companies, despite repeated warnings from the U.S. Congress and in the media that such tools were being used to quash dissent, persecute religious sects and target minorities.

Critically, American surveillance technologies allowed a brutal mass detention campaign in the far west region of Xinjiang — targeting, tracking and grading virtually the entire native Uyghur population to forcibly assimilate and subdue them.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

They got this surveillance in place and normalized rounding up a minority group and imprisoning humans indefinitely in re-eduction camps.

Clearly, nothing like the U.S.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 1 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

I certainly don’t want to be defending the US in regard to the camps they have for deporting people, but there is a big difference between genocide and deportation. Don’t defend China with whataboutism.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I'm definitely not defending the Chinese government. I'm saying the tech companies that are currently helping to run the U.S. government, first helped the Chinese government create the surveillance network that was used to disproportionately target and round people up.

Now these same people are removing safeguards in the U.S., implementing live facial recognition surveillance networks, and a very similar pattern is starting to emerge.

People aren't just being deported, they're being held in private prisons indefinitely without due process, and it's making the same people that are creating these policies very wealthy.

Don't ask me to close my eyes, stick my fingers in my ears, and pretend I don't see what's happening right in front of me.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Did I ask you to do that? Or is that what you’ve chosen to hear?

I guess I just assumed that by accusing me of whataboutism you were implying that I was making an incorrect comparison. It seems like a glaringly obvious comparison that I would only be missing if I refused to see it.

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