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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Is Greta becoming a martyr for the cause knowing full well white people will only care if they kill one of their own? Goddamn. 😔

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get the impression that she's just doing what she thinks is right, and that the reason she is doing it is because she can.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It is right. Ayaya, poor Greta will suffer in this life when she could be living large and easy in Northern Europe but, if my religious beliefs are true, she will be rewarded for it in the next one. Personally, I'm too cowardly and selfish to do any of the things Greta has been up to.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is an interesting schtick.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For better or for worse I do post here in full honesty, and if you knew me IRL you'd understand I am indeed a very yappy religious man, lol.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] runblack@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I might have met you in Rotterdam.

No, I think you met another annoying monotheist. 😅

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would you be cowardly if you knew you were going to be rewarded with paradise?

That's what I don't understand about theists. It just sounds to me like you're not sold on your belief system.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Do you think that people who believe in God KNOW?! It's belief in the unseen, my guy, a leap of faith INTO faith which takes both effort and courage, and an Israeli missile/bullets don't require that and trigger your survival instincts. You're understanding things in a very intellectually limited "black and white" way, detached from the human experience and all notions of epistemology...

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, OP is right. A believe is the idea that something is true, even if there is no factual base for it.

It is an act of strength and courage to renounce religion, rather than to delve deeper into that madness.

Admitting a person lied to themselves is really hard. Look at all the motherfuckers who killed themselves and others for some god. They are the cowards.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even morality cannot just be reasoned into, since moral "shoulds" don't follow from factual "ares" (check Hume's fork, or the "is-ought" problem, for an easy explanation). Every belief of these natures is something you either take or not. And "religion" is doing a lot of work here and is inappropriate. I understand dismissing many belief sets and ideologies because they contradict either reality or your own moral codes, and I also understand having a bad after taste for all beliefs because of a negative experience with one (I felt this way myself for about two decades!), but the latter simply doesn't follow logically. And to each their own, of course.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's true, I haven't delved very deeply into the musings of most works of fiction.

You say you have faith in your belief system, but you don't have that much faith if you're worried about dying.

[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans are okay with their own children being shot in schools. They are hardly going to give a shit about a woke communist Yurpean trying to prevent a genocide.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Most Americans I know are furious over the genocide but entirely powerless to stop it.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

I wish I could say that. I'm in a deep red area, and at best I get mild indifference, and many are near-to masturbating over the glory of israel, god's chosen people.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, most see her as a rebel uneducated teen and the others don't even know her. Her death won't make any difference, because EU already condemned the flotilla, virtually signing her murder.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rachel Corrie didn't manage to change much.

Every bit helps? Sadly, I didn't even know about Mme Corrie, but maybe Greta's effort will have more reach? Gotta stay hopeful!

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Will they care about a climate activist, though? I know too many people who would applaud her disappearance.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago

I dont think majority of people care about Greta. White people wont give a single fuck unless they already cared about Greta's floatila thing.