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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Weight loss drugs don't immunise you against food though.

And usually the people who are on drugs for weight loss arent exactly close to the figure represented.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Weight loss drugs don't immunise you against food though.

The new ones like ozempic literally kill your cravings and desire for snacking, so in a way they do.

And usually the people who are on drugs for weight loss arent exactly close to the figure represented.

You'd be surprised at the figures of some of the people I see at the doctor's for weight loss drugs.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In a way, they attempt to moderate the hormones that usually are the cause behind snacking. But it won't eliminate habit.

You'd be surprised at the figures of some of the people I see at the doctor's for weight loss drugs.

I don't think I would, but if some anorexic person gets weight loss drugs instead of a referral to a psychiatrist, somethings gone wrong.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But it won't eliminate habit.

Obviously anecdotal, but from what I've seen and heard it actually does. Those using it have almost no cravings, you can stick their favourite snack in their face and they'll politely decline.

some anorexic person gets weight loss drugs instead of a referral to a psychiatrist,

Didn't mean it that way, but slim and shapely.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

I mean, it will help eliminate the habit.

The person doing the snacking is addicted to a feeling usually associated with eating because of a hormone that your stomach releases which makes you hungry. (Ghrelin iirc) This medication on either ocunteracts that or helps it's counterpart, leptin, which signals satiation.

Usually people with severe obesity have those signalings all fucked up.

But like with smokers, nicotine patches will help people quit, but some just like still smoke on them and don't even reduce, you know? Those people are more addicted to smoking than dependent on the nicotine, really.

Similar thing goes for food addiction. It can be either or, addiction or "dependence" (I put it in airquotes because it's still not "really" required but your body certainly will make you think it is because it doesn't know we live in modern times and a bit of fasting is completely safe).

Usually it's a mix of both, obviously, like with everyone. But if the psychological component is far larger, than these sort of meds perhaps won't help as much, and you'd need something combined with therapy perhaps.

but slim and shapely.

Yeah eh, if they're being cautious and abiding by the instructions on the medications, I guess why not.