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Is it really linked to the pandemic though? I don't mean to be conspiratorial, I'll happily believe it if someone can explain, but frankly the pandemic seems to me like a very small drop in a huge bucket of problems the world has that would exacerbate mortality.
Some factors I would easily think have much more impact than covid would be higher wealth inequality leading to widespread poverty, higher crime, vaccine and more general healthcare hesitancy, crumbling public services and rising cost of private alternatives, increased homelessness and stress caused by housing insecurity due to extremely high costs and jobs being few and far between while low paid and highly insecure as layoffs never seem to end and good luck finding one of you're not already working, and all that at least intuitively to me can far more easily kill people than a virus with flu symptoms that largely stopped 5 years ago.
Obviously way back during the pandemic it's understandable there were some excess deaths directly caused by the virus for people who were already one foot there who also ended up getting the virus, but in retrospect the whole thing wasn't even that big a deal, sat at home for like a month in April and that was it, most people either didn't have it at all or didn't even know they had it, and seemed to enjoy the excitement and the change of pace to working from home and the accompanying lower transport cost, now how would this fairly benign event still cause much of anything, let alone excess mortality?
7 million of 6 billion could indeed be considered a "drop in the bucket" on the grand scale, a "blip on the graph" but that's not your point it seems.
Covid and its continued impact on the world being reduced to "being sat at home a month in April" is such a dismissive and deluded perspective, I don't even understand how it works as a comment literally on a data driven study about continued heightened mortality due to covid.
But what I couldn't find in this study is WHY they think this increase in mortality is due to covid.
I am not claiming they are wrong. I am not casting doubt. I am not anyone or in any position to do that.
I am simply missing an explanation, an explanation that I feel should be front and centre, in bold red text, maybe wordart, for how something relatively minor from 5 years ago is causing anything at all 5 years later. I may be wrong but I think that's called a thesis, and either I'm blind or I couldn't find it.
To me, yes it is very unintuitive because the pandemic is grossly outdone by virtually everything that's happened since and during. If there is an increase in insert bad thing here, a fairly benign virus from 5 years ago wouldn't even be in my top 10 guesses for it.
And yes, maybe I'm very deluded, but if you can't explain it to an idiot like me who's trying to understand and genuinely align themselves with truth and knowledge derived via the scientific method, then what hope is there for communicating this stuff to the rest of society to benefit from, when many aren't so willing, and would happily equate data driven analysis and findings with the subjective opinion of their uncle that he obtained through "doing his own research"?
You keep calling covid a "fairly benign virus from 5 years ago" which makes me think you aren't actually interested in learning. It still exists, it's still worse than flu, it didn't "end". Look up "long term effects of covid-19" and you'll see that this is being heavily studied due to various correlations with various serious conditions. But because it only STARTED 5 years ago, we can't possibly know for sure yet.
Jesus Christ, so you're completely disregarding POTS, fibromyalgia, CFS/ME and Lyme disease too? It's not a conspiracy cliche to tell you to Google medical studies on these things. Saying "those guys just like to chill" like they aren't in chronic physical pain 24/7 is the most self-centered, dismissive bullshit I've ever heard.
I don't think any evidence I could give you of correlations would be enough because you literally don't believe in medically accepted physiological conditions, seemingly because you personally had a chill 2020.
Nah chill out and stop projecting, I definitely believe in CFS, Fibro, ME and ADHD and to some extent the bundle of symptoms that are speculated to occur as a result of post-viral fatigue commonly dubbed "Long Covid", though I think there isn't concrete evidence towards that characterization of it - which emerged on Twitter from a hashtag, not from established scientific or medical sources, and as of yet we don't know for sure if it's connected to covid.
What I don't believe is that I don't think everyone who thinks they have these disorders - actually has them - which is fact, and I'd like to see you try and prove that misdiagnoses, especially unprofessional self-misdiagnoses literally don't happen.
This is all irrelevant to my original question anyway, you've still yet to provide a single explanation for why the study links increased mortality to Covid-19. Are there increasing deaths again? Why? Is it direct? Indirect? Why did they omit this highly important fact?
Key part being 19, because it started in 2019, and ended in the first half of 2020 because we have this thing called a vaccine.
What is it doing in 2025 still?
Is it mortality caused directly by the virus - as in, people are dying from it now, and if so - why would that start happening again? Stronger variant? More vax hesitance? More misinfo? More conspiratorial lunatics like you lot making up disorders to drink horse dewormer for or whatever you rigtoid loons got yourselves into these days instead of organizing to improve their material conditions?
Actually I'm pretty sure I got a good idea for what could be a big factor just based on this conversation and it's not a stronger new variant.