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What kind of traitorous soldiers fight against their own people?
That's a pretty roundabout way to describe regular old cops.
It's almost like there was a plan behind the right's propaganda machine that has spent decades convincing ordinary people that if other ordinary people ask for things like rights or fairness or safety then that means they are an evil enemy.
There's definitely an ideology. And there are certainly a number of plots and schemes executed at a high level.
But so much of the modern condition of American policing is just state sponsored stocastic terrorism. It's less a coherent plan as an unchecked filibuster. Thousands of idiots and assholes told "do as thou wilt" so long as they do it to the underclass.
The kind who are there to get paid.
Othering is a pretty powerful tool built right into the human condition.
I would be curious how true that would be in a post-scarcity egalitarian society. How much does our impulse to create out-groups depend on resource insecurity?
Obviously in capitalism having an out-group makes it easier to exploit everyone by creating division. Since exploitation is the key to profits, capitalists are incentivized to create out-groups. But if you take away these conditions, is it really human nature to create an enemy out of whole groups of people?
I think anthropologists and sociologists would likely be the best to answer that, but our animal cousins do the same thing fwiw
Animals hardly live in post scarcity though, nor are they equipped to understand what that is.
Ok, but much like humans they have had very little need to develop the behaviors and capacity for it.
It’s a fun theoretical but I’d tend to think that we don’t have a special hidden away innate capacity for it given everything about humanity and nature
Its a circumstance that is an extension of rational dualism, it isn't inherent to humanity. Its the way we were all taught to think, that leads to "othering". There are other means of analysing our world, which bring people together rather than splitting and alienating each other.
What you call inherent to humanity, I call inherent to bourgeois capitalism. Humanity has other options. In a thread about worker liberation, bourgeois essentialism should not go uncriticized.
The arrival of the military deescalated the conflict. The miners were rightly hostile toward gun thugs, capitalists, and cops, but had a favorable view of the military. The miners did not view the soldiers as their enemy, and as far as I know, peacefully surrendered.
I'm sure there were exceptions, but that was my understanding from the great history, Thunder on the Mountain: West Virginia Mine Wars of 20, 21
Probably harder to find examples where they wouldn't.
Armies have historicly been used just as much to keep the local population in line as to wage war.
I'm sure they had their own families to feed. Desperation is a powerful tool
If someone tells you to put a gun to a guys head for trying to feed his family, on pain of not being able to feed your own family, that's a good sign to turn the gun on the guy giving the orders.
Because he might as well have a gun pointed at them.
Ya I agree, but I think the reality is that most people just get swept up in everything and fixate on their immediate problems.