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You can see the square in the background of the video, there's just rows of bicycles.
The whole "all the protesters were herded into the square, machine gunned, then homoginized via tank and washed down a drain" is a fabrication.
What actually happened, you can look up the gorey pictures and everything: Protestor groups 1-2 blocks away from the square lynch multiple cops, burning the bodies. Cops proceeded to drive around shooting civilians 1-2 blocks away from the square. Multiple police trucks end up burned in the surrounding streets, its unclear whether they were killing people mostly at random or entirely at random.
Your version is suspicious lacking student deaths. It is inconsistent with these NSFL photos.
Student deaths are included in the protestor deaths.
The brief summery is entirely consistent with those images, every image of casualties we can see are in the surrounding streets and not the square, there is no images of tanks and streets covered in gore, and the number of corpses we see are in the dozens, not tens of thousands, which is more consistent with the claims of 1-300 dead.
You didn’t talk about protester or student deaths. You only focused on the poor poor soldiers.
Dont be pedantic. The protests focal point was the square. Protesters being murdered in nearly streets don't need a separately named massacre.
There are dead bodies mangled with crushed bicycles. And the photos are of streets covered in gore.
So the only proof you will only accept is photo of every death? Fuck off you Sealion.
The point was the story we're all told about tanks squishing thousands of protesters because those commies just hate freedom is entirely orthogonal to actual events. And no, describing police driving around murdering people either mostly at random or entirely at random is not trying to make you feel sorry for the police. I get the sense that you aren't talking to me, but this weird idea of what a tankie is that only exists in your head.
The images aren't easy to look at, but theres bodies that were shot by the cops while riding their bicycles, but no piles of gore mixed with crushed bicycle.
Thousands dead, some squished by tanks. Actually happened.
Reread what you wrote. It sounds like the police are being attacked.
There are dead bodies under crushed bicycles. Sorry there wasn't enough blood for you.
They were attacked, there's pictures of their corpses. Other police responded with indiscriminate murder. I am not making any kind of value judgements, acab and all, just describing events as reported by witnesses and corroborated by the images
Point to the image that shows protesters crushed under bicycles you say exists.
You may not have meant to, but you only wrote about police deaths.
https://dbkhx50d3v9iq8.archive.ph/7Tdzh/772bcbf7b9cbfadf4641f58ea53475df85e9840c.jpg
https://dbkhx50d3v9iq8.archive.ph/7Tdzh/931560f4f35a8a4801955fc5ec5e6bb635317c75.jpg
Those are not consistent with a tank running people over until they're paste. They are consistent with cops indiscriminately firing on a group of bicyclists.
Something heavy destroyed those bicycles. With tracks.
This is what bikes look like after a tank runs them over.
You haven't offered any proof for thousands being dead though.
Chinese Red Cross, the Swiss Ambassador and former student protest leader Feng Congde all say around 2500.
I love unsourced assertions.
Also, what kind of fucking source is the Swiss Ambassador or Feng Congde? How would they have any idea?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
Buddy, do you think that we’re somehow unaware of the fucking Wikipedia page? We’ve investigated it to death. And posting Wikipedia is not evidence; it’s not a source.
The source has been provided.
No, it hasn't