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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think your view is very rational and compassionate. And I work in addiction recovery, so I'm actually proud of you for being informed enough to hold those opinions, especially as you haven't suffered through an addiction. I would love it if more people took a more sober (heh) and humane view such as yourself.

To touch on what I'm thinking about your 2nd paragraph, I view alcohol as humanity's oldest anti-anxiety medication. Perhaps its a one-dimensional view but I feel it explains it's grip on people well into this "modern" age. (Well, modern enough to know better, right?) And not to get into a whole political foofaraw, I do think that capitalism has propped up huge industries that preyed on human frailty and vice, and governments got "addicted" to vice tax as well. Government has always been heavily embroiled, and those mammoth brewing corporations have insane political clout.

I've always had a strange interest in the undercurrents of liquor/social policy in my home Province of Manitoba. I've followed the evolution of our laws and policy far more than any normal person would. I could give an extemporaneous 2 hour presentation, with hot questions no effort lol

Our story starts in the late 70's where liquor stores were open 10am-3pm M-F and any establishment which sold beer must have an attached hotel (under the justification that should a person find themselves intoxicated, they would have safe haven). Beer stores were open from 9am-6pm for the working man, as nobody got drunk on beer, only ever on spirits... or so it was said...

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On the other side of the world here and the hotels in South Australia stopped serving alcohol at 6pm between 1915 and 1967. Did wonders for our binge drinking culture. People would race to the hotel after work to down as many beers as quickly as possible in what used to be called the 6 o'clock swill. A typical bar was very long to accommodate so many orders in a short time and tiled to deal with all the spills. People passed out in the streets at 6pm from a big nights drinking. The legal system is a very blunt instrument for changing human behavior with often unintended consequences.

Perhaps a worse vice in terms of societal harm currently is the gambling industry which is massive and growing and its just such an obvious scam and abuse by some of the most unethical and evil businesses around outside arms and human trafficking.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

IMO the big difference with gambling versus the other vices is how quickly it can ruin you. Most people take years before alcohol or cigarettes take their toll. Gambling you can ruin your life in an evening.