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[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Am I in the wrong? I sometimes, when people refer to bourgeois as inhuman or talk about people throwing away their humanity or being worthless, get my feathers a little ruffled and try to say something defending not their actions, but their humanity and its inherent worth. I fear I am being--or at least sounding--counter-revolutionary. I just think with the way dehumanizing is used against us (as communists but also "us" as in disabled folk) we would want not to wield it as a weapon ourselves. I also have some self-esteem/self-worth issues that make me want to defend my own humanity by defending that of any and every person. Then I know there are folks who don't fully identify as human in various ways, and I kinda get that too, but I think that's a different topic? Like, I know Musk is a nazi, but we can't forget that he is capable of great kindness and chooses not to show it. If he is a snarling beast, who can blame him for his actions? If he is a human, who could not? I thought about posting something like this site-wide, but I've noticed some people on the site can be hostile towards more subtle disability issues, so I thought posting it here would reach more of the people I'm speaking to.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i always think this too actually!! it really bothers me when people say someone is an inhuman monster cos like, no, the whole point is that they aren't! you are not inherently different from them in some genetic way, it's only in a class way, which is why it's important to acknowledge priviledge and material interests!

im like 90% sure this is an autism literal thinking issue, however

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Ah, that may be it. I have some tendencies associated with autism, but I've never gone to get diagnosed. But yeah, it should be important to recognize that under different circumstances, we could be drastically different.

[–] gingerbrat@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think the definition of "inhuman monster" is the interesting crux here. The the origin of inhuman is probably ableist (I'm sure, I just don't know for certain), I don't see it much used in a "not human genetically speaking" kind of way. I guess the effect of the word is very much changed with common usage for a lot of people, leading to mean "Someone who willfully and knowningly behaves against the best interests of other humans and/or harms them". From what you two describe, I think the word that has the meaning of dehumanization is probably "non-human".

It's semantics, let's be real, and I don't think either variant is good. But for me, using inhuman in that sense of actively working against humans actually feels pretty apt. I like using it on people like Musk, Thiel, Besos and the likes. Material conditions allowed them to change and become antagonistic against their fellow people, and they chose to do so. I hope we can come up with a derogatory word to put with bourgeois that isn't ableist in origin tho.