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Moe definitely wants those Canola countermeasures dropped. I don't mind this ask from him, from the POV of EVs or canola.
Thanks. I was racing in head trying to find a reason why he's saying this. This makes sense. They buy our canola, we buy their EVs.
Because smith said it 2 weeks ago
So we fuck over a major Ontario industry to unfuck a major Saskatchewan industry.
BYD and Geely are dumping EVs below cost, hiding a debt that may be bigger than Evergrande. The point is to put local auto industry out of business.
And while people somehow see the appeal of TEMU cars, the reality in Australia is that buyers are complaining about poor reliability already after just 2 years.
Yes but other than government handouts to industry, the EV industry in Canada has no momentum. Moreover, between Assolini's eagerness to destroy the world, Smith's anti-EV lobbying, and Carney's corporate profits-first agenda, I don't see EV manufacturing getting off the ground in Canada any time soon. I bet Carney will soon strike down (or 'postpone') the EV quota mandate for Canadian car manufacturers, to go into effect in 2026, I think, further eroding momentum. Other parts of the world are passing North America by when it comes to renewables while we're asleep at the wheel because the oligarchs in this country obstinately refuse to reduce fossil fuel dependence and our political and media classes keep bowing to them
The Ontario EV industry at any point can start making a smaller, cheaper EV that's not a Crossover SUV abomination. We need smaller smart car sized EVs in the sub $20,000 range (in addition to better transit, please don't crucify me Lemmy).
What Ontario EV industry?
Exactly.
Evolve with the future or die with the past.
Speaking as someone who still mourns the loss of the Australian car industry.
Good question. Like I say, maybe they should adapt. And I say that as a stupid idiot Albertan who works in oil and gas, but hey for now yeeeehaw.
I just want my partner to be able to afford a car, we already have an EV. There's zero convincing me to buy an ICE vehicle; that ship's sailed. I'm happy to support both Ontario AND Saskatchewan, but the current cost and selection of vehicles we make domestically cost more than they are worth and FUCKING SUCK.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/ford/f-150/2021/reliability/
Canada's best selling vehicle, is it not?
Bingo. People in forums say they want EVs that are affordable, put people on the 401 buy $70,000 pickup trucks. Ford tried with the Lightning no one bought them, and unlike Tesla , Ford stock value depends on sales and income.
It's almost like that is 2 different groups of people.
I've never had a vehicle bigger than a 4 cylinder "econobox".
And the last time I needed to replace my vehicle I was actively looking for an EV of a similar size to what I had always driven, but nobody had one available for me to buy.
Did you read the link?