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Actually, the NYT published the results of an investigation last week, and it showed that in the states that track voter registration by party affiliation, democrats lost 2m voters and republicans gained 2.4m. taking into account the states that don't track voter registration by party, that means the 6m people who didn't vote for Kamala last fall were democrats that switched party because there isn't a real difference between the two parties on most things, and they wanted something new.
So maybe if the democrats want to win, they can stop jumping ship and voting for fascists.
So if that's to be believed (which, to me it looks like an enormous red flag of vote manipulation, but okay) - then 6m registered democrats decided to vote for trump instead of Kamala. And your take is if they want to run someone more progressive than Kamala those voters will vote Democrat again?
Given that progressives made a huge garment-rending show of NOT voting for Kamala, and apparently the trump-loving people registered as Democrats, who did in fact actually vote, went the other way, you're suggesting the Dems could win by moving left, and I'm saying why would they not think the opposite?
The numbers show they can win if they move more right. The numbers are bullshit, but that's what we're working with. And what the DNC is working with. Run a candidate that will lose in Iowa and win in California, and will lose nationally by a lot or have a close race nationally.
Non-voting progressives are up a creek. With only a year to go til midterms.
No, my take is that they stop trying to appeal to the fascists in their party and start adopting populist policies. Which, as the name implies, are popular. Things like universal healthcare and a bump to the minimum wage.
The democrats lost the election because their conservative members fled to the republicans. They’ll lose the next election too if they continue trying to appeal to republicans. Bitch about it all they want, nobody is responsible for that except the party and their stubborn refusal to be anything more than “republicans, but sometimes with gays”.
So if they run someone more conservative, they'll win the election. You see that, right?
Like, I'm not hoping they do that - very much the opposite - but that's what they're getting told by shithead consultants and that's the "smart" play if they want to win elections.
If they run more progressive candidates, they'll lose more voters. Because the left has just proven in the most disastrous election in anyone's lifetime that they can not be swayed to vote Democrat no matter how dire the circumstances - in fact, the more dire, the more they dig in that they will not not help republiQans destroy everything.
Name one fucking democrat who has run for president in the last three elections what was not a fascist, and I'll show you a democrat that got the progressive vote. Who are you going to pick? Kamala The Cop, who laughed on TV about throwing mother in jail for smoking pot while she was doing it at home? Maybe one of the DNC members who was laughing at pro-Palestine protesters?
Stop being fucking nazi scum, that'll get you a ton of votes.
I mean, No, because you won’t be dissuaded.
So here we are with midterms barreling down, Dems will have someone to vote for - what’s your plan? Is there any - I mean, seriously, any national progressive party presence at all? Is any group even close?
Yeah I didn’t think so. And that’s the rub, as they say.