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After the recent struggle session which resulted in

isntrael

CW: It's pretty self indulgent considering the gravity of the actual situation.

I am left disquieted due to various people who represented zionists positions directly or held space for these. Particularly (but not only) those who are admins and mods. People who think the above image is a "holocaust flag". And otherwise seem to have conjured a fictious form of anti semitism, just for deploying here.

Well OK maybe it is allowed to give people a week or a month to mull things over and reconsider their positions. But do we come back to it? Or should I just seethe with resentment, hold a grudge, and snipe about other things going forward?

On the other hand, the majority & plurality were on the correct side of things. So that's good. I just... Idk I don't expect hegemony but this is literally such a simple issue. I don't know how anyone who feels different could feel comfortable on this site. it's like learning mods/admins are triggered by a guillotine.


In some ways it could be "the fighting is so fierce because the stakes are so low". (The stakes = emojis)

But on the other hand, the stakes are so huge and this is just the scale of fighting that's near at hand.

Nobody ever accused me of being perfect and well behaved so maybe I'm just throwing stones from a glass house. I explicitly must consent to whatever critique in that regard.


I would like to suggest that on the new user signup page the question be changed to read

What are your views on GSM / LGBTQ rights, racial justice, animal liberation, isntrael, and similar movements?

Although I have no idea what sort of answers people make to these. So maybe it's stupid.


Fucking shit. People are fucking being fucking murdered right at this fucking moment.

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[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think everyone was getting a little too heated, Lyudmila included.

[โ€“] Hermes@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Whatever dude, I'm done with the wrecker ass thread.

[โ€“] durings@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wrecker = when people rightfully disagree with and prove you wrong

[โ€“] T34_69@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're not supposed to care about fascism creeping into our little digital oasis that we visit in between taking care of our communities and trying not to get crushed by the disaster dystopia, I guess

[โ€“] durings@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Careful, they might accuse us of being the same person on alts!

[โ€“] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

We are all Z on this blessed day

[โ€“] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

"Could I be wrong? Well, yes, objectively, but more importantly everyone against me is wrong somehow!"

[โ€“] Blakey@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

Any community or movement that is "wrecked" by calling out genocide apologia shouldn't fucking exist.

[โ€“] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Who are the "wreckers"? The zionist apologists or the anti-zionists?

[โ€“] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The actual wreckers are the ones trying to sow division on the site and encourage people to form cliques and splits on the site, encouraging infighting. I'm not naming any names here (because I honestly don't think anyone here is genuinely doing that in bad faith) but this is and will continue to be a topic that wreckers will bring up to sow division and cause issues for quite a while I think.

[โ€“] Blakey@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When I get heated I don't "accidentally" start repeating genocide apologia and if I did I would expect to be banned or at the very least not still be in a position of authority afterwards.

[โ€“] Kuori@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

you don't understand, it was just a heated poster moment!

[โ€“] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago

"I'm about to do a heated admin move"

shits out a bunch of Hasbara talking points