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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The movement gained mainstream traction in June 2018 following controversy of the Trump administration family separation policy.

So basically liberals supported if not spearheaded the movement.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No

Many Democratic politicians, such as Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Vice President Kamala Harris of California, believe that ICE should be reformed rather than abolished. Harris stated that Democrats should "critically re-examine ICE" and "think about starting from scratch" with American immigration policy, while Senator Bernie Sanders stated that Democrats should instead encourage Trump to work with them on "a national program which deals with this serious issue."

Liberals where the pearl-clutchers.

Sorting political affiliations into liberals/conservatives is a false dichotomy that basically only happens in the US (due to the two party system). There are other political movements, though. Otherwise, Occupy, BLM, Stop Cop City, Defund the police, etc. would be considered liberal movements, even if they oppose liberal (DNC) politicians.

OOP (the person posting the tweet/toot/notlearningtheblueskylingo) is an explicit leftist, so he makes that distinction.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Any movement that promotes human rights is by definition a Liberal Movement.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe with the philosophical definition. Not with the political definition, though.

OP means the political definition.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The literal definition of Liberal, now and forever, yes. It often gets misused in this social circle because 1) Tankie Propoganda who oppose human rights and social progress in the west and 2) it's often misused by political parties with the word in their name, but if you search the definition you find exactly what I said it is.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Word of advice: The dictionary is a horrible source of authority when it comes to political discussions. You're gonna have a bad time using it, since it ignores political and historical context.

Nevertheless: OOP is correct.

The literal definition of Liberal, now and forever, yes.

Have fun never having any fruitful political discussions with that attitude. /s