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Hey all. I'd like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a 'ceding the issue' way. Over the past year I've been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I've internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it's taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we've roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I'll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we'll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I've never wielded the admin power with no input from the users and the mod team. The mod application has always been open to every user to apply and be a part of it. Regardless of differences

[–] Elohimbo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

A system is what it produces.

looks at "holocaust emoji" and "you just want to burn the star of david don't cha" and "go touch grass six feet under"

hmmmm

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Just because someone has a "M" or "A" does not mean they are not allowed to make statements about their personal opinions. Did hexbear make you write the comments that were removed outside of this specific topic or the DM harassment you did?

[–] Elohimbo@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should look into that "DM Harassment"

The user Beam_Brain was calling Hezbollah fascist right before October 7th, this was in summer 2023. A comment thread was locked because I called him a chauvinist. I then messaged him after October 7th and said "still think Hezbollah and Hamas are fascist?"

That's your "DM Harassment". A single message. No stalking, no harassment. Just one "you still sure about this one dude"

The user btw is better now I believe and more principled, and could attest to this being the case if you asked them.

Every one of my supposed "crimes" just vindicated me more

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Again no problem against the content of your message but continuing an argument in DMs after disengaging is harassment regardless if you are right or not. We have banned people before for that, and I'm not saying this to relitigate the years of mod action against you only to say that this is not a new disagreement. Despite this disagreement you are still here today and have had years of amazing discussion via the posts and comments. My point is that as a whole we have contributed to an amazing place on the internet and one that I think we both want to continue thriving, I would like to have a post in the future where we can discuss changes in a respectful and constructive way.

I am not your enemy and there is no cabal with a vendetta against you. Only a group of volunteers with different opinions and conflicting ideas. I agree we act slowly and agree that we've made mistakes. We will continue to make mistakes as we learn, and the site has been massively harmed by actions taken too quickly, which is why we move slower to try and prevent that.

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