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To add to the discussion we had some month ago, where some people said the planned laws would never come to be and would never be a threat: proton decided to differ and to move parts of the infrastructure to other countries.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Surveillance-Proton-relocates-parts-of-its-infrastructure-from-Switzerland-10538664.html

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[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m losing track of who the good guys are. The most unethical e-mail companies involved in military or facisms in my view (and I’m no expert) are:

  • Microsoft
  • Google

Gray area would be Proton until I find out what material advantage - if any / their Trump-supporting member provides to fascism in the U.S. and beyond.

Better options as I see them (again, I’m not an expert):

  • Tuta Mail
  • Posteo

There’s a good breakdown of ethical option here: https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-email-providers

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Love my mailbox.org

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Proton isn't perfect but it's worlds better than gmail. I'm content with using their free tier, but not convinced to pay for their expensive plans.

Here's another breakdown: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's way better than Gmail too. But if even better options exist, then I'm gone at the first whiff of fascism, discrimination or military involvement. Making a choice on privacy alone is mostly for individualists, IMO. Individualism is what got is into this mess in the first place.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got Mail plus with a discount, it's their only service I really use anyway. Don't think I actually made use of it. Registered some aliasses since I could, but don't use them so +1 from me.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The discount is only for one year isn't it? You're gonna pay full price after that

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, if my discounted year would end today I would not renew it. Back then I thought I might want to upgrade to the full plan after a year but now I've come to think it might be better to get these services from a bunch of different companies instead of one all-inclusive package. Maybe I'll takr the effort and switch to Tuta mail. Or maybe I'll just downgrade back to the free plan. Not sure yet.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

You probably have to cancel a month in advance before it auto renews