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[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I use homepage and pretty happy with it. “Drag and drop configuration, no yaml” actually put me off.

[–] TheBigRoomXXL@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

Drag and drop isn't for me either but it's nice to have more beginners-friendly options in the self hosted community. Not everybody like to live in the terminal.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Same, homarr is decent but I prefer my configs, quick edits from whatever device is in hand, easy peasy.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I wish we would all start switching over to JSON for configuration files. It's so much easier to parse, and you can't screw it up with too many spaces or not enough.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No thanks. Yaml isn't perfect but by God json is best used to return and parse data, not input it.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

My biggest peeve with JSON when I'm forced to use it as a configuration format is that it doesn't have any syntactical support for comments.

So I can't even add any notes to the file.

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yep this for me too. Thankfully VSCode allows comments in its settings.json / launch.json files but most programs use strict JSON which doesn't allow comments

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yea, this is a deal breaker imo. My code tends to be 10 to 1 comments to lines of code ratio. Configuration even more so.

jsonc/json5 exists for this use case, but few tools actually use it, yaml is far more popular

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to think that until I figured out yaml and now yaml isn't so bad.

It helps that text editors know what yaml is now so insert spaces when you hit tab etc

[–] tuhriel@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My biggest gripe with yaml (especially in docker-compose files) is that l, for me at least, it is absolutely not clear when I need to add dahes (-) in front of multiple entries and when it's just linebreaks.
And there are no easy accessible docker-compose validators...

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Try the yaml language server by red hat, it comes with a docker compose validator.

But in general, off the top of my head, dashes = list. No dashes is a dictionary.

So this is a list:

thing:
    - 1
    - 2

And this is a dictionary:

dict:
    key1: value1
    key2: value2

And then when they can be combined into a list of dictionaries.

listofdicts:
    - key1dict1: value1dict1
    - key1dict2: value1dict2
      key2dict2: value2dict2

And then abother thing to note is that yaml wilL convert things into a string. So if you have ports 8080:80, this will be converted into a string, which is a clue that this is a string in a list, rather than a dictionary.

[–] tuhriel@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

That actually makes sense...thank you!

[–] iggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No support for comments? Hard pass

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is my biggest annoyance with JSON. As a data structure it's very elegant, but it only really makes sense to people who know how to code, and without the ability to add comments you have to rely heavily on external documentation to make it readable to most users.

[–] cravl@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

And like yeah, both the wonderful (and foss!) .json5 and Microsoft's semi-proprietary(?) .jsonc exist, but most projects just use their language's default JSON parser that doesn't recognize them. What I would personally love to see is .json5 support baked into the default JSON parsing libraries of Python, Go, etc. (Enabled by a flag, likely.) It's a superset of regular JSON and fully ES2019 compatible, so there shouldn't be any issues.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Instead you can screw it up by having too many commas or not enough. Hardly that much of an improvement.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's IMO also so much clearer regarding data types. You can't accidentally write a boolean when you want a string.

[–] FrederikNJS@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why not just write your YAML files in JSON syntax?

JSON is a valid subset of YAML

[–] Burn1ngBull3t@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah i was wondering how you actually use versioning with that drag and drop. Homepage seems better for that IMO