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It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It is only slightly on topic, but I'd like to give a hateful shout out to Ticketmaster/Live Nation's new "mobile only" ticketed events that require you to have an iPhone or fully Google blessed Android phone. They do not allow you to use a QR code or printed ticket anymore, only their app with a constantly changing bare code or Google wallet (unsure of the IOS experience).

I am going to a concert this weekend and I either have to dig up some old phone that can work with this app or sell my tickets.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I stopped going. Fuck it. Not giving in to their bullshit.

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've been quietly boycotting them for over 13 years now, shortly after online scalpers started having their field day with their sites. It sucks not being able to go to any major shows but I have made myself compromise by going to small local shows only and it hasn't been that bad.

Everyone votes with their wallets, so as long as people keep paying, they'll keep making us jump through more and more hoops.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

So messed up that they too are the scalpers. A band I liked put pressure on them and managed to catch them in their bullshit, but that is rare.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That's how I'm feeling I will go after this concert since they already have my money.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

The local folks probably deserve tye attendance more anyway. So many nepo babies...

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

It was the fees for me. Their CEO needs to be Luigi'd for leading a parasitic company that has made so many music venues go under.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Someone recently crack their shit code. Can use offline app after extract secret once. Will link once find.

Edit: https://conduition.io/coding/ticketmaster/ app (javascript) https://github.com/conduition/ticketgimp

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, that might be a handy workaround.

[–] DynamicBits@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just go to the box office when you get there and present an ID that matches the name the tickets were purchased under. Depending on the venue, they will either print your ticket or text you a link that opens a page in your browser that can be scanned.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 14 hours ago

Everything I've read is that they only offer accommodations to people during time of purchase, and even then you're basically at the mercy of the venue. I'm going to call them and see what I can do, but I don't have high hopes.

[–] deprecateddino@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've never had an issue loading my tickets in the browser.