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[โ€“] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The whole technology is based on a flawed simulation of intelligence. It has no understanding of the meaning of what it is saying. It will always be bullshitting by design. It will just get better at it.

[โ€“] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

This kind of assertion wildly overestimates how well we understand intelligence.

Higher levels of bullshitting require more abstraction and self-reference. Meaning must be inferred from observation, to make certain decisions, even when picking words from a list.

Current models are abstract enough to see a chessboard in an Atari screenshot, figure out which pieces each jumble of pixels represents, and provide a valid move. Scoffing because it's not actually good at chess is a bizarre line to draw, to say there's zero understanding involved.

Current models might be abstract enough to teach them a new game by explaining the rules.

Current models are not abstract enough to explain why they're bad at a game and expect them to improve.