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I think I've seen discussions about this before, and obviously the USSR produced art because we still see statues of Lenin today. But how does this translate in modern times with the instance of obscure art or other modern art? Often the purpose of that art is to explicitly go against societal norms for aesthetics.

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[–] Monstertruckenjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean the intent of Goya wasn't to sell them as a commodity but they would be considered one nonetheless because as a sought after artist his work is of a financial value

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds me of people cutting walls out of buildings to sell Banksy pieces.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny because I think being on a cut-out wall makes it a more interesting art piece in a vacuum, but it also totally negates the point of graffiti as a public display on existing infrastructure.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

The art is the contradictions sharpening.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, when they transferred his wall paintings onto canvasses, that was a form of commodification because now the paintings can be sold on the marketplace as paintings. The house he lived in can also be placed on the marketplace (unless Spain turned the house into a Goya national museum), so the wall paintings could also be commodified in this way.