[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing] I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH
[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing] Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG
[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing] Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS
[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]
[a confused nazi asks] Why… why are they still arguing?
“Voting is actually bad” Tankies 🤝 Nazis
"My own entitlement and vindictive emotional state is far more important than broad policy measures to make the best outcomes for the most people." - Tankies 🤝 Nazis
edit: I will forever smirk that over a third of the people who read this felt "Well they don't understand that MY emotions are special, the unrealistic things I want are more important than any of those other things! How dare they equate my feelings with those of nazis, those creatures weren't even human, unlike me!"
"I support genocide"
Anti-tankies 🤝 Nazis
" The Holo-incident is not THAT bad" Tankies 🤝 Nazis
Comparing a famine caused by poor harvests across eastern europe and exacerbated by poor management to the fucking holocaust is wild.
"poor management" is one hell of a way to put it.
I mean, even the Holocaust could also be said to boil down to poor management if we're just doing shitty arguments.
The Holocaust was so devastating because the Nazis were incredibly efficient. Soviet genocides didn't rely on efficiency, but malicious negligence.
The holocaust was the result of pretty effective management, only possible with the latest technology, courtesy of IBM.
What lesson do libs and anarchists take away from the holodomer anyway? Don't try to redistribute grain or stop hording during a famine?
Literally only tankies are stupid enough to believe old Soviet Propaganda about how Holodomer was not a genocide. when it clearly was.
Well you can either look at the now public soviet archives to see what the government was saying to themselves, you know primary sources, and plenty of historians who cite those or you can accept what anti-communists with no primary sources and a weird tendency to rehabilitate nazi-collaborators say.
Academics all over the world are in consensus about this, and you can be sure they've examined all the sources available to them. Tankies are the only ones who want to argue otherwise.
Not just wild, also a form of Holocaust denial.
Man, tankie really doesn't mean anything anymore does it?
This is why far "left" and "right" are itself misguided labels. It's more like far opposite on the other end where they meet.
Horsehoe theory is misguided itself, it was pitched purely to distance liberalism from fascism when historically they are linked, and to demonize those who support collectivization over privatization. Read Blackshirts and Reds.
Liberalism is antithetical to fascism both ideologically and historically. Literally only online Marixsts are ignorant enough to think that liberalism is just fascism lite.
Horseshoe theory is literally just
Yeah, that really nails it.
Okay yeah I see what you mean. I rescind my original post.
Idk why you're downvoted, horseshoe theory has proven to be correct over time. There's that much that separates Marxist Leninist authoritarianism and Fascist authoritarianism
For almost all of human history, the current center of the the western Overton window would have been considered far, far left. Does that mean that monarchism and feudalism is the true center, and liberalism is actually the same as being to the far right of monarchism?
The modern left-right political spectrum only makes sense in a modern sense. Trying to apply it like it's some sort of universal law is stupid. Monarchism, for example, can't be placed on the spectrum because there are different types of monarchies that are radically different from each other and there are different monarchs within each of those systems that are radically different from each other.