Fuck No. You're learning absolutely nothing if petty campism is the lesson you're taking from this. If you read the Dropsite article about Mamdani's win then you'll know NYC-DSA has learned their lessons from the disappointments of AOC and Bowman.

Even then that doesn't mean it was a mistake to sneak AOC into office before they were ready to provide her the institutional backing she needed to stay the course. The point is to learn why her experiment failed and apply the lessons you learn.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

they were fucking endorsing her even after national dsa unendorsed her https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2024/07/real-story-behind-dsas-decision-unendorse-aoc/398024/

As City & State previously reported, NYC-DSA voted overwhelmingly to endorse Ocasio-Cortez earlier this year, with more than 80% of DSA members in the chapter’s Queens and Bronx/Upper Manhattan branches voting in favor of endorsing her for reelection

“In February 2024 NYC-DSA, a chapter of the National DSA, voted to re-endorse Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as we have every election year since 2018. Today, AOC is still endorsed by NYC-DSA. NYC-DSA withdrew its request for a National DSA endorsement after the primary passed and the National Political Committee honored this request,” the NYC-DSA chapter said in a statement.

“It is not uncommon for chapters and National DSA to diverge on endorsements,” the statement continued. “Her endorsement passed with significant support in the chapter, and the chapter remains supportive of her candidacy.”

i couldnt find a single article of NYC-DSA backing national's decision, it's not fucking "petty campism" to think that one of the chapters renowned for being probably the most lib in the entire DSA (at least it was from my time in DSA) is probably still lib???

i'll put my trust in nycdsa when they actually show they can exert real pressure* on the officials they helped elect or start helping elect officials as "DSA" on the ballot and not "D" and not a moment before.

btw no i dont currently think zohran is the same as aoc or bownman or sanders (although he certainly has done stuff already that makes me worried), but i will view it as essentially luck for them to stumble on such a good principled candidate (unless again they show some sign of being able to reign him in.)

this is actually being charitable to nyc dsa, it's possible that they could have been exerting this pressure and just dont actually disagree very much with what AOC has been doing...

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is a case study in US electoralism not a grand evaluation about how lib NYC-DSA is. They couldn't keep a hold on her to begin with because in 2019 they had no one to back her up in office and so she was "lost to the consultant class". If she snuck into office a few years ago, then we probably wouldn't be seeing this behavior from her.