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Liberals literally every time they encounter actual leftists: "They must be secretly Republicans!"
Yea, 100% everyone should be weary.
We all know that groups like Cambridge analytical, heritage foundation, TPUSA and others are relentless with their online social media presence and actively work to shape pop culture with their views. Including making the left either look insane or distracting them enough too give their right wing views more access to the general public.
You'd be crazy to not consider that the fringes are not targets. You should absolutely be critical of the fringes. Given that this and a few other posts here on Lemmy were posts that I originally saw on right wing spaces, I do believe it is suspect.
Advertisers build profiles on demographics to better manipulate them. You better believe these groups have the left figured out. You can't directly prove it but you sute as fuck can see the results with how much ground and engagement the left have lost in the past 10 years. They've went from having a very strong presence to people believing they're putting cat litter in classrooms. You can believe it's due to idiots on the right. But it's as much the fault of idiots on the left.
Ok, well I'm going to assume that you're a paid employee of George Soros here to suppress any sentiment to the left of the DNC.
I think it's a centrist LLM. It's way verbose but says nothing
Yeah, or maybe they're a Russian troll trying to make neoliberals look bad.
You're all only proving my point. You all sound like r/conservative right up to "no true conservative" bullshit they're going through now.
Just calling everyone to your left a conservative without actually engaging with the ideas presented isn't a very effective strategy for accomplishing whatever it is you want to.
Nobody has presented anything other than calling me a bot. The .ml instance is corrupted by something that stinks. I think most other instances rightly call it out for this. It's clear just from the tone and rhetoric when the instance is a .ml just like when dealing with a trump supporter.
This is clearly a leftist meme advocating people read Marx, and you're here acting like communists are right-wingers. It's bad-faith, and is what is getting you called out.
Yea? Give it time. This will be the next hill. Use the fringe left and far right to burn the constitution so trump can get whatever he wants even another term.
BlueAnon
If the fringe left is really "fringe," then even if we wanted to do whatever it is your conspiracy theory thinks leftists want to do, then we don't have the power or influence to do so. The left wants revolution, the right wants to maintain the status quo. The constitution already isn't stopping Trump from doing what he wants, it isn't a magic document.
Why don't you decide to productively engage with leftists, rather than just insult us with conspiracy theories?
Because I'm done with leftist bullshit. I can't watch them continuing to shit the bed and not realizing they're the problem.
You're right they don't have power or influence. But that isn't the fault of the right. It's the choices and actions of everyone on the left. The left need to wake up and see how potentially they direction was influenced by powerful people who herded them towards actions and ideas that were toxic pills
Leftists have heard your conspiracy theories, the ones you've failed to materialize any evidence for, and rejected it. Right-wingers such as yourself would do well by reading leftist theory and engaging with the ideas that have existed for hundreds of years, growing and expanding over time, rather than just assuming this is a new thing where the far-right is telling people to read Marx. You're incoherent and insulting towards those to your left without base.
You bloody hypocrite! You were the one who started with the bot/shill accusations!
I'm not wrong
Ok, then I'm not wrong about you being a Russian shill trying to make liberals look like paranoid morons
Yeah, that is something a Russian shill trying to divide the left would say.
No. I want the left to be united and successful. But I'm done with how oblivious so many of you are to how ineffective and useless you all are. I'm tired of watching so many opportunities go by year after year while you all waste it by trying to be the next PETA. I'm blaming the left for the reason the right have succeeded. The left have made themselves so aggressive and abrasive to the general public that it's alienated then further and further from pop culture. I've watched the left to form a dominant position to the weakest and it was from our own actions. I'm done fucking sugar coating it. The left is cooked until they wake up
Probably shouldn't accuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a shill then. Especially if you're going to cry and moan when you get it back at you in return.
You mean like coming in and accusing everyone of being secret right wingers?
What? Are you hundred years old? No you fucking didn't.
The left dominated media and culture as a result of that. They had Hollywood and literature. Science wasn't some taboo subject. The left dominated the Internet. They were early adopters of technology and creators of many things. Right wing people really were getting phased out. It wasn't acceptable to publicly be a racist or even sexist or want to end social programs or destroy democracy.
Then the left turned. They started succeeding these areas and allowing the right to control the space. I watched every comment section get filled with Lefty's telling others to not roll with pigs and just let the right spew their bullshit. I watched Lefty's take massive momentum and channel it into a public street so that momentum could get their shit kicked in by police. I watched people take over cities and end up arguing if they should click or clap what consensus really involved rather than getting shit done. I watched as climate conscious people told others to deflate tires of random people going to work and then wonder why their cause is alienated from the general public. I've watched the left turn into hostile, toxic, uninformed, ineffective luddites.
The right took over and used basic common sense Media and public relations concepts to become more and more palatable while the left lost it all. And they still don't realize this. Forming a mob and blocking traffic or yelling at people at cafes or burning small business is not a good look especially when the goal is not clear. We all know there's agent provocateurs amongst these protests. Has anyone thought about countering or exposing them before organizing this stuff? No right, they just show up and go to town then act surprised every time. It's nuts.
Remember that feeling when Democrats showed up with those cardboard signs. When you saw that were you like "aww they're trying their best maybe next time guys" or were you like "I'm fucking done with these people"
Because that's where I am with much of the left. Until the left wakes up, we're getting what we deserve for becoming complacent and ineffective.
No they fucking didn't. Jesus, how are people both completely ignorant and arrogant at the same time
You're not an honest person. Nothing to say to you anymore. Denying that point is just being a child at this point.
"if you don't automatically agree with my objectively false claim, you're not an honest person and you're a child!"
You're a fucking moron
Nope, but like I said you're showing how immature and childish your position is.
Why do you losers all have the exact same script?
Do you even know what βthe leftβ is? Itβs not liberals; itβs not Democrats; itβs socialists, who want to abolish private ownership of the means of production. And we have never dominated the media, because the media are owned by the bourgeoisie. We wonβt dominate the media until after a socialist revolution, when the proletariat own the media.
The Democratic and Republican parties are both objectively right-wing parties. Theyβre both pro-capitalist/anti-socialist parties.
Most Liberals are left. Democrats are not. Socialist are further left. Socialist, especially .ml try to say they're the only left. Not arguing about this beyond this. It's just facts.
What's the matter? You can dish it out but not take it?
Take what? I know what you people are and stand for.
Shill accusations, dumbass, try actually reading
Sure left wing MAGA
Lol, believe me, I have zero belief that America was ever great or ever will be.
And have you really been reduced to just mindless insults? You really can't take it can you
I'm just returning the same energy I'm getting
Other way around, dumbass.
If that's all you have left then you're not worth the effort. Just proves my point.
Incoherent
βEveryone to the left of me is actually to the right of me.β
Not at all what I've said