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[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If there is truly no difference, then only disallowing some munitions is a completely useless gesture.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What? This is about giving Israel 500 million dollars for free to purchase weapons with, by the way,

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Your assertion is that there is no distinction between offensive and defensive weapons. If that is true then any allowance of any weapons is a continued support of genocide. Another way: any bill that still allows some weapon types is functionally useless at preventing genocide.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes which is why AOC should have voted for the amendment to not send weapons to Israel. That is kind of the point here.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes which is why AOC should have voted for the amendment to not send weapons to Israel

Except that's not what the amendment did, it only stopped some money for a portion of particular types of weapons.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes and AOC voted against that and said she did it because she supports sending weapons to Israel. Which is what she says in the tweet

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I must have read a different tweet.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

You read a tweet full of lies and deception the likes only MAGA normally publishes

This is some trickle down economics level of "being anti war".

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So, to be clear, you would support Trump sending billions of dollars worth of 'defensive weapons' to Russia?

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago

Username checks out.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"We should keep sending 9 digit amounts of money to Nazi Germany because not doing so would be a useless gesture."

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reducing the 11 figure amount by less than a tenth is a useless gesture, yes.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently it's useful enough to vote against.

And lol, can you imagine if Trump was sending hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to Russia? I'm betting you suddenly wouldn't oppose stopping it because it's "a useless gesture"

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you can't understand why voting against things that only pretend to help without actually changing anything might be a good idea, there is no point in continuing to talk about it.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don't automatically admit that I'm correct and you're wrong then there's no point talking to you

At least you admit that you can't actually defend you position from anyone who actually questions it.