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Hey, if Obama's team could get a black man elected twice then this should work perfectly.
The only way be will get that support is if he pivots to the right. Obama talked like a progressive when he ran, but ruled conservative as a president. So no I don't see this as a good sign.
lmao
Yeah the fucking Obamacare guy was a conservative, OK BUDDY
You must have been the Harris campaign advisor.
Without the public option, Obamacare pretty much just cemented insurance corporations into our society. Any other little things that came along with it have since been gutted by Republicans over the years. The only part that survived was the heritage foundation plan (the people who wrote the fascist project 2025 takeover handbook)
Obamacare was romneycare. Wtf are you talking about?
You can daydream about what Romney might have done, you can say stuff like "Trump promises to replace Obamacare with something better", but does it mean anything in the face of the fact that under Obama a 58 DNC senate majority actually expanded medicaid while every single Republican voted in opposition?
He passed the Massachusetts healthcare plan that Romney devised and passed. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Every time you respond, you expose yourself.
Its finitebanjo, that's all he does.
This exchange where they don't realize/accept the fact Obama took what Romney did as governor is just the perfect example
Since when did he enact single-payer healthcare? I must have missed that news.
Public Option, similar to Germany healthcare, was the plan until Independent Joe Lieberman held out keeping the DNC from the required 60 votes to bypass Republican Filibuster.
Let me guess, just like the last DNC fucktard I asked you about, Joe Lieberman was Totally Definitely Completely Unrelated and Absolutely Independent. Everything is different now right? The DNC is completely reformed and progressive now right?
In that user's own words if we had voted in more dems they totally wouldn't end up with enough dissent to kill the public option.
Also ignores how much they could have done by killing the filibuster or simply forcing the person filibustering to actually be there the entire time not just say they would
He bailed out the banks instead of the people , passed the Republican healthcare bill only aftet he removed the public option. HE damn sure was a progressive. He was supposed to be the Hope and Change president, instead he deported more people than Trump and Biden combined and bomb the fuck out of Afghanistan and other countries. Also appointing Hillary Clinton to Security of of State wasn't best move eithet. He wasn't a conservative like you think of them today but he still moved to the right once he was elected. Some may say he did more good then bad, but he should shoulder some of blame of the track we are on now he help create.
He literally served the people of the United States, not just his constituents and his party. And just like congress should do once they're elected.. should not just serve their constituents, but the people of america, every one of them. But sure, let's keep going on with the fantasy that president barack obama was the republican...
Fox News Entertainment Division Has turned ~~is turning~~ you and you ilk into sheep.
After the 2008 financial crisis much of the world was left in economic turmoil and what Obama did worked. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelies.
Fun fact, the Republicans Filibustered the version of the bill that passed, but the 58 DNC convinced Bernie Sanders and the other Independent holdout to pass it via supermajority. If Republicans had their way there would never have been any Medicaid expansion, tens of millions of people would have suffered without healthcare to this very day.
Conservative =/= Republican. Some of the perceptions in the US are skewed so far to the right that you don't even realise how conservative the Democratic Party is. In a lot of other countries in the world, there are like 3-4 major parties left of where Obama stood, but only like 1, maybe 2, right of him.
Hell Bernie Sanders is to the right to most European countries. They just don't know what conservative means.
jfc first he was howling about Obama but now they're defending Republicans. Do you have any idea where you are right now, son?
Bro, please actually read what the comment you're replying to are actually saying. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
Always do but never stops them
I recognize your username, I don't think I've ever had any pleasant interactions with you and now here you are telling me to listen to an appeal for the 21st century nazi party.
What part of the comment you're complaining about is saying good things about Republicans?
Or did you stop after seeing they put it in?
Intentional or not this paragraph is a defence of the Republican party, ans I fully believe it is intentional. The only way conservatives like this can feel any sense of justification is to bring their enemies down to their level.
No this is showing how we don't have a left party in the usa while people are worried Mamdani will end up like Obama did after the DNC gets more involved.
Being critical of how the dems are failing the country is vital, not something that makes one instantly a conservative.
Complete ignorance of policy to say the DNC aren't left and the GOP aren't hardcore right.
They are left in the sense they are to the left of the GOP, and where did you get anyone saying the GOP isn't hardcore right???
They're left in the sense that they expand medical coverage, tax the rich, regulate industries, and promote solutions to climate change.
Cool, still on the right of rest of the world on all those things. See they use of Romenycare instead of going for Medicare for all or universal healthcare
You need to try and read first before replying, then maybe I'd have better things to say about you. You can't expect me to praise you for either being thickheaded enough to not get what people are actually saying or for misrepresenting what people are saying because you don't have an actual argument, can you?
This here is why you never see me say good things about you. You literally can't argue in good faith and always rely on calling the other guy a label that doesn't fit what they actually say so that you can claim the moral high ground.
You're still doing it.