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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

I mean, back in the day, Japan had gone batshit, so someone of that era holding onto a bit of hate isn't that unusual, or even a sign of anything else.

It's like any time when a country goes batshit; people are going to hate that country for the rest of their lives, and it may apply to the people of that country too.

You think Ukrainians are going to be all lovey dovey about Russians any time soon? Iranians about the US or Israel? Palestinians about Israel?

No, those people are going to be raging for the rest of their lives. Maybe only inside, and not every person, but if there aren't people despising Israelis for the next fifty years, it would be a miracle. Fuck, there's people in countries that haven't been attacked by them that have turned from neutral or supportive of Israel into having a mad-on against the country.

Same with Russia, the US, and anyone else currently playing stupid fuck-fuck games with people's lives. The fuck do you expect? Humans hold onto anger. It's survival trait. "Those motherfuckers" fucked with you once, they'll do it again. And they will, because humans are some fucked up monkeys. We tend to fuck with other people a lot. So holding a grudge ain't exactly an irrational thing.

Don't think you hold any?

Here's a test: the only good nazi is a dead nazi. If you don't agree, then maybe you don't actually hold any historical grudges. Maybe you didn't pick it up from the people that saw that shit in real time. But most of those people are dead now, and the world hasn't forgotten that nazis suck.

My ass holds that grudge. Can't pretend otherwise. Then again, I haven't forgotten that nazis weren't all german either. Those fucking vermin infested all kinds of places even before the war.

You think in fifty years any surviving Palestinians' kids and grandkids will be all "oh, grandma, you don't have to say bad things about Israelis". Nah. Hell no. The only reason that the fake and gay people around the fake and gay granny in the text are objecting is because the Japanese got nuked and lost the war. If they'd nuked San Francisco, you really think you wouldn't occasionally at least think about slurs towards Japanese people? Maybe not. I doubt it, but it would be surprising. There's certainly people that hate the US for dropping those bombs, and we dropped them on the country that attacked us first.

Yeah, we gotta work to end bigotry in all its guises. But don't pretend that the anger and hate behind some of it isn't understandable, even if it isn't acceptable.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean the difference is that a nazi isn't a racial group or people.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, another person who doesn't seem to understand the difference between an inherent trait, like being Japanese, and a personal choice, like their political affiliation

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