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Fun fact : it's my first ever post on any lemmy instance/community blob-no-thoughts ...which is messed up..

Okay tbh I don't know if I should have posted this some place else or if here is just fine oh-shit

So I'm brand new here, I've joined as lemm.ee was going to shut down. I only chose Hexbear because of how big and active it is, and of course for all its shade of leftism (being far left myself) but tbh that part was just a plus for me, what I wanted more was an opened enough instance, an inclusive one with enough peace of mind (not having to deal with unhinged/oppressing posts/comments daily).

But I started noticing that actually Hexbear had been defederated from some big instances like lemmy.world, upon trying to understand why I stumbled upon lemmy.world ~~BS~~ post explaining they did it for preemptive reasons (wtf ๐Ÿ’€), obviously I just dismissed lemmy.world entirely and continued enjoying my time here. But then I noticed other instances like Blahaj blocked Hexbear as well and a bunch of others, I never found out why.

Then, while trying to understand what's with all the defederating I stumbled upon a lot of negative noise against Hexbear, claiming you lot are doing some horrid stuff like war crimes denial, trolling, hate speech, spreading pro-Russian propaganda (like anti Ukrainian stuff don't misinterpret me here, I'm fine with anti-western views or western propaganda skepticism), so much so I don't really know if what I read was some kind of fascists trying to slander this place, or people confused about Hexbear political views, or if it's linked to some Hexbear history I'm not aware of... It's just weird because so far I haven't encountered anything I could hold against this instance, for all I've seen you're all sweet and making nice content, haven't seen anything unhinged, but what makes me uneasy is this defederating thing, I can't help but wonder why.

I'm really confused. Can someone explain to me what this is all about ? Is it just some right wing noise, some unknown drama or what ?

Edit (in case any of you see it): Thanks a lot everyone for all your answers, kind words, jokes, emojis and for being so welcoming. What you all said was very informative, and most of it I sadly expected. Having taken a liking to lemmy I knew that whatever I'd learn it'd be a cause for concern, it saddens me that several instances, big ones at that, would just make more room for the far right by suppressing leftists and spreading hate. As always in any such case I can't say I'm surprised but it worries and disgust me nonetheless. Anyway I'm glad I found this place :)

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[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the summer of 2023 a horde of reddit racists, nazis, neoliberals and in general trust fund basement dwelling losers moved on masse to lemmy, because reddit banned some third party software or whatever, it was so dumb I can't even remember what the fuss was about

Since then they've been clutching pearls at our anti-racism, anti-Nazism, anti-imperialism, and believe it or not anti-genocide

Every instance besides our own invited these freaks in and violated the Nazi Bar Principle and as a result these reactionary redditers have infested most of lemmy and turned it into a bargain-bin 4chan ripoff

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In the summer of 2023 a horde of reddit racists, nazis, neoliberals and in general trust fund basement dwelling losers moved on masse to lemmy, because reddit banned some third party software or whatever, it was so dumb I can't even remember what the fuss was about

reddit changing how those APIs worked was bad, actually and you shouldn't be smuglord about it

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I couldn't care less, the site was irredeemable years before that; it's a cesspit of racism, genocide denial and organized cyber-harassment campaigns

Your favorite hobby sub doesn't make up for that toxicity, reddit self-sabotaging is always and everywhere a boon for us

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you're celebrating a corporation screwing over a bunch of people

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What people? Was there a mutual aid org that solely organized through reddit and fell apart when the corporation telegraphed it's obvious corporate consolidation from a mile away?

Are you seriously telling me I need to feel sorry for Redditors? Radlib crybaby bullshit

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you are on the same axis as the liberals cackling about trump screwing people who voted for him

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah poor baby trust fund redditiors losing their supposed "livelihoods" because they weren't smart enough to get around a TOS update, totally same thing as laughing at Hispanic Trump supporters getting deported

Keep your online brained radlib lecturing to yourself

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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one of those lines is longer, they're both lines you disingenuous clown

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody understands the pain of redditors peterson-pain

[โ€“] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

you ought to, you sure sound like one of the kinds we dunk on

Brought me here and I'm sill using FOSS apps.