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Lol, what an absurd interpretation of the data, and accusing me of moving goal posts when all I did was pointing out that the data doesn't fit to your warped story.
And 1965 to 1970 was the hight of the cultural revolution, meaning the communist party was mostly engulfed in an internal power struggle, which left the people in China mostly to their own devices (and not actively damaged by earlier disasterous policies by Mao, like the great leap forward), and in 1970 to 1975 the reformist around Deng already started getting the upper hand in actual implementation and the result is the state-capitalist country we know today ("communism", lol ๐คฆ).
And I explicitly stated that I do not defend the military dictatorship in SK. I only pointed out that your beloved Maoists in China somehow did significantly worse than them until China started adopting similar policies in the 1970ties. Literally doing nothing would have been the better strategy for the Chinese government, as the 1965 to 1970 data clearly shows.
P.S.: The Phillipines seem to also have somewhat outperformed China on that metric in the 1950ties (at least they didn't do worse), but were later held back by the Marcos regime: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1072232/life-expectancy-philippines-historical/
P.P.S.: Indonesia also doesn't show a Mao induced delay in the raise of life expectancy: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1072197/life-expectancy-indonesia-historical/
You're literally coming up with the argumentation as you go. Firstly it was "Deng already in the 70s" explaining the 1965-1970 growth of life expectancy, now it's internal power struggle. You're just making shit up as you type, deeply unserious analysis. The Cultural Revolution from Mao is precisely this 1965-1975 period, it wasn't "internal power struggle". Surely this is the stable point of Chinese history in which Chinese were left to themselves?
I'm gonna stop arguing with you because you're simply talking from ignorance of Chinese history and making up shit as you speak. Maybe consider for one second why India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia or Philippines aren't as developed as China are, having a comparable starting point in early 1900s. Spoiler: they're not communists
Lol, you literally have no idea what you are talking about (including non-propagandized 20th century Chinese history). And that you continue to claim that China post 1970ties is communist (or even just socialist) is hilarious. Maybe try looking up the number of Chinese billionaires as a start ๐คฆ
Sure buddy, you as a westerner know more about Chinese socialism than the literal ideological heirs of the Chinese revolution whom are still in government. Xi Jinping's dad was a hardcore commie leader all his life, and Xi himself has a PhD in Marxism. Getting high up the Communist Party of China is one of the higher-functioning meritocracies, requires extremely high educational standards in the history of socialism, and a high degree of involvement and being a good example of party activity and hard work. But you, from your western sofa, know more than the Chinese who literally became the strongest country in the world and uplifted 800 million people from poverty (you keep not answering to why India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Philippines and Indonesia didn't achieve this feat).
Fine, keep ignoring obvious facts and lie to yourself that China isn't full on capitalist these days. The cognitive dissonance must be painful ๐คฆ
Keep being a western chauvinist who thinks knows more about socialism than the literal best of the nations which implemented it